From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88699 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Engster Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.network.gnutls.general Subject: Re: TLS v1.3 - Gnus and GnuTLS - Client resets connection Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:53:58 +0200 Message-ID: <87v9v8rnih.fsf@randomsample> References: <87ftmcnipd.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="91321"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) Cc: ding@gnus.org, gnutls-help@lists.gnutls.org To: Chris Marusich Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36903@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Aug 08 11:54:54 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hvf8H-000Nbx-Ew for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:54:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hvf7r-000715-Fi; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 04:54:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hvf7l-0006yD-06 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 04:54:21 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hvf7i-0007xY-Je for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 04:54:20 -0500 Original-Received: from randomsample.de ([5.45.97.173]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hvf7e-0007bA-IH for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:54:17 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=randomsample.de; s=a; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From; bh=QyzWyCbHxQkSsHtwnUckqTPK/y9so2bK3DElsWe1IrA=; b=JEYZnCIe7JlDlfCw+gEABt0b2eQzwWhsUVglY+w50hJp4qFxl/tu0FOZLd+HU/wTDBQtcz+ttxVpg9KGyzt80KuGj4D0AdudgUyOMO2JXC+cBu3Gj+xe9ec7rDpAtP2w; Original-Received: from p54a2e99a.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.162.233.154] helo=void) by randomsample.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hvf7d-0002LQ-9X; Thu, 08 Aug 2019 11:54:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: <87ftmcnipd.fsf@gmail.com> (Chris Marusich's message of "Thu, 08 Aug 2019 01:51:26 -0700") List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88699 gmane.network.gnutls.general:4586 Archived-At: Chris Marusich writes: > I don't know if post handshake authentication has anything to do with > the error I saw (I have no reason to believe that it does), but I > mention this because it makes me wonder if perhaps Gnus needs to be > updated to play nicely with GnuTLS' implementation of TLS v1.3. > > Another possibility is that Gmail's IMAP server is misbehaving, but I > don't know if the evidence supports that conclusion at this time. > > Thoughts? I'm glad I have a work-around, but if there's anything I can > do to help resolve the actual problem, please let me know. Yes, a lot of people doing TLS connections in Emacs are currently struggling with this. For details, see this bug report: https://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=34341 This will be fixed in Emacs 27 (or maybe another Emacs 26 point release, whichever comes first). -David