Emacs 17+gnus and comments

Emacs 17+gnus and comments

[Uwe Brauer]

Hi

I receive sometimes messages like this

>>> "Uwe" == Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> This is a test of the
> comment structure
>
> We have an empty line
>
> And another one.

Now, please note that the empty lines start with a > without a space!

When I try to run C-u comment-region
I obtain

This is a test of the
comment structure
>
We have an empty line
>
And another one.


This problem did not occur in earlier emacs+gnus version. Any thoughts?

Uwe Brauer 

Re: Emacs 17+gnus and comments

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Hi
>
> I receive sometimes messages like this
>
>>>> "Uwe" == Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:
>
>> This is a test of the
>> comment structure
>>
>> We have an empty line
>>
>> And another one.
>
> Now, please note that the empty lines start with a > without a space!

Right, and `message-yank-prefix' (which gets used as the value of
`comment-start') has a space, meaning those lines aren't recognized as
comments.

Maybe try setting `message-yank-empty-prefix' to "> "? For your own
citations, anyway, that ought to ensure the space is there. I don't know
about other people's citations, though...

Re: Emacs 17+gnus and comments

[Uwe Brauer]

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> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Right, and `message-yank-prefix' (which gets used as the value of
> `comment-start') has a space, meaning those lines aren't recognized as
> comments.

> Maybe try setting `message-yank-empty-prefix' to "> "? For your own
> citations, anyway, that ought to ensure the space is there. I don't know
> about other people's citations, though...

Thanks but I found the problem. I am using a quite old package from Noah
Friedman called comment.el which uses a function comment-out-region. For
this function to work he has set a variable comment-mode-alist via
defvar, and it the latest emacs version this variable is not set. I will
ask him (I think he still active) and in emacs-devel.

Uwe 


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Re: Emacs 17+gnus and comments

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

>> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:
>
>> Right, and `message-yank-prefix' (which gets used as the value of
>> `comment-start') has a space, meaning those lines aren't recognized as
>> comments.
>
>> Maybe try setting `message-yank-empty-prefix' to "> "? For your own
>> citations, anyway, that ought to ensure the space is there. I don't know
>> about other people's citations, though...
>
> Thanks but I found the problem. I am using a quite old package from Noah
> Friedman called comment.el which uses a function comment-out-region. For
> this function to work he has set a variable comment-mode-alist via
> defvar, and it the latest emacs version this variable is not set. I will
> ask him (I think he still active) and in emacs-devel.

Well, I saw the same behavior here and I don't have that library
installed, so it might be more than that...

Re: Emacs 17+gnus and comments

[Uwe Brauer]

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> Uwe Brauer <oub@mat.ucm.es> writes:

> Well, I saw the same behavior here and I don't have that library
> installed, so it might be more than that...

Oh that is indeed strange.


The package I mentioned uses the comment syntax ">" instead of "> ". I
use the package basically only for uncommenting unwanted comments.

There also seems a change in autoload. I just asked in emacs devel,
because I loaded the package via autoload and in very recent emacsen the
variable is not correctly set anymore, while in emacs 26 it is. Strange,
I couldn't find anything in the news.



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