From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/81335 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carson Chittom Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Marks are going to be removed from Ma Gnus Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:40:18 -0600 Message-ID: <87vcnac0n1.fsf@jackson.wistly.net> References: <87ipjbhitf.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1329140562 9303 80.91.229.3 (13 Feb 2012 13:42:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 13:42:42 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M29615@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Feb 13 14:42:42 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RwwAx-0007Kt-9M for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:42:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RwwA2-0002PP-86; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:41:42 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1RwwA0-0002P7-Rv for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:41:40 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rww9w-00075I-FA for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:41:40 -0600 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rww9u-0006n6-6R for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:41:34 +0100 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rww9s-0005u2-Se for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:41:32 +0100 Original-Received: from adsl-98-95-126-105.jan.bellsouth.net ([98.95.126.105]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:41:32 +0100 Original-Received: from carson by adsl-98-95-126-105.jan.bellsouth.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 2012 14:41:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-98-95-126-105.jan.bellsouth.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.4 (x86_64-unknown-openbsd5.0) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YEASULGkqHcR6aMoXvgIzk0vTG8= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:81335 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I've never understood the point of having marks in nnml, nnfolder and > nntp. Other than "oo, the .newsrc.eld file is so scary". > > Which it isn't. > > So I'm going to remove all the backend marks stuff from these three > backends. Unless someone has a good reason why not to do that. You mean marks like !, ?, etc? I'd really ask that you not, at least for nntp. I've got a mind like a sieve, so I often find that in order to post a coherent reply to someone, I've got to re-find the data I need. I mark the article ! and come back to later (sometimes hours later). (Since you don't mention nnmbox or nnimap, I suppose I could actually subscribe to the mailing lists I normally read via nntp on Gmane, and work things that way.) Also, don't you almost have to keep at least read/unread markings so Gnus knows which to display and the user knows which to read? Or am I way off base here?