From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/80942 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bug#10238: R in gnus-summary does not pop a frame like F does Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:34:42 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87vco0ivb1.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87pqe8kbg1.fsf@lifelogs.com> <83pqe823oj.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1327440941 3841 80.91.229.12 (24 Jan 2012 21:35:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:35:41 +0000 (UTC) Cc: <10238@debbugs.gnu.org>, , , To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: ding-owner+M29224@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Jan 24 22:35:33 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo1b-0006r7-Tn for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:35:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo1V-0001gB-Tt; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:35:25 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo1U-0001fz-Ka for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:35:24 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo1Q-00045u-LH for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:35:24 -0600 Original-Received: from cer-mailmxol2.jumptrading.com ([208.78.214.25]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpo1P-00084W-13; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 22:35:19 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Ap0EAGTCHk/AqF0N/2dsb2JhbABCrzWBcgEBBAF5EAsNBwEMJQ8BBEkOBYd8uB2JJgIBCgIiBYN4BoM1BIg/klaMdQ Original-Received: from unknown (HELO chiexchange02.w2k.jumptrading.com) ([192.168.93.13]) by cer-mailmxol2.jumptrading.com with ESMTP; 24 Jan 2012 21:36:38 +0000 Original-Received: from internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com (10.2.4.29) by chiexchange02.w2k.jumptrading.com (10.2.4.71) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.176.0; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:35:12 -0600 Original-Received: from tzlatanov-ubuntu-desktop.jumptrading.com ([10.2.27.110]) by internalsmtp.w2k.jumptrading.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:35:12 -0600 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" In-Reply-To: <83pqe823oj.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:25:48 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Jan 2012 21:35:12.0326 (UTC) FILETIME=[0DA3A660:01CCDAE0] X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:80942 Archived-At: On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 23:25:48 +0200 Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Ted Zlatanov >> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 16:00:46 -0600 >> Cc: 10238@debbugs.gnu.org, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen >> SM> IOW, just make sure that if you only read the first 80 chars of SM> the first line, you get something meaningful that describes the bulk of SM> the patch. >> >> I'm OK with the above, as long as the Gnus developers are allowed to go >> over 80 in the first line within reason. So we'll keep the first line >> short, but if it has to go a little over 80, we'll make sure the really >> important stuff is at the very beginning. EZ> I have yet to see a doc string whose first line could not be made less EZ> than 80 characters. When in trouble, ask for help here, there are EZ> enough native English speakers here who are proficient in making that EZ> line clear, concise, and short. We're talking about VCS commit messages, not docstrings. It's a different context, and for VCS commits often there is information that needs to be distilled into that first line and 80 chars are not enough. Ted