From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/78060 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Outgoing mail defaults Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:01:57 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87vczb3obu.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87d3ln9b7y.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87aagqsh4e.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739miq8yf.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8762rcjm5r.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300759390 29978 80.91.229.12 (22 Mar 2011 02:03:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2011 02:03:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26371@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Mar 22 03:03:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q1qw2-0002fr-Eq for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:03:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q1qvI-0005dE-LQ; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:02:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q1qvF-0005cw-O4 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:02:13 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q1qvD-00029S-TH for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:02:13 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q1qvB-0002bP-Nz for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:02:09 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q1qvB-0002ME-7W for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:02:09 +0100 Original-Received: from c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([67.186.102.106]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:02:09 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 22 Mar 2011 03:02:09 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-67-186-102-106.hsd1.il.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:7mr1/WSe+w8qk/dOR4A+jGUBkd4= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:78060 gmane.emacs.devel:137507 Archived-At: On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 18:14:56 -0400 Stefan Monnier wrote: >> I'd also like to remove the netrc-* function calls if no one objects. >> It would break people that expect ~/.authinfo and ~/.netrc to work. SM> I haven't looked at the patch yet, but I don't think this is OK, tho I'm SM> not sure exactly how bad this is. >> Those are the usual defaults of `netrc-file' but we strongly encourage >> ~/.authinfo.gpg now, so I think the damage is justified as it may get >> former netrc.el users to consider secure alternatives like EPA/EPG or >> the Secrets API. SM> Encouraging is fine, but preventing the use of an unencrypted file SM> doesn't sound right. How about testing (file-exists-p netrc-file) and if it exists, asking the user if he'd like to put netrc-file at the head of `auth-sources'? netrc.el is entirely replaced by auth-source.el at this point so I'd really like to remove netrc-* calls whenever possible. Ted