From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: ding@gnus.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Outgoing mail defaults
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 12:17:00 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vczh4qgj.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3bp191xw8.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 18:04:39 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
LMI> 1) change the defaults to use smtpmail
Yes. The landscape is definitely changed since the days when sendmail
was all you needed.
LMI> 2) change smtpmail so that it queries the user for SMTP host name (and
LMI> possibly port number)
LMI> 3) use customize to save the user's reply
LMI> In addition, smtpmail should be altered to use auth-source instead of
LMI> the slightly confusing use-both-auth-source-and-netrc setup it's using
LMI> now, and use `open-protocol-stream' to get opportunistic STARTTLS
LMI> upgrades.
smtpmail can get auth-source to do 1+2 better that Customize IMO through
`auth-source-creation-prompts' and `auth-source-creation-defaults'.
Perhaps auth-source itself should be smarter when running for the first
time, asking the user if he'd like to use the Secrets API, or (on Mac OS
X) the upcoming keychain support, or an unencrypted file on Windows, or
some other auth-source backend. The default works for those who use
EPA/EPG and cache or agentize their passphrases, but otherwise it's
annoying.
Ted
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-03-17 17:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-03-17 17:04 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 17:17 ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2011-03-17 17:31 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 18:18 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 18:33 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 19:35 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 17:25 ` David Reitter
2011-03-17 17:43 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 18:22 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18 14:10 ` John Sullivan
2011-03-17 19:02 ` David Reitter
2011-03-17 22:27 ` chad
2011-03-18 2:38 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-18 4:17 ` chad
2011-03-21 19:46 ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-21 19:50 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-17 20:23 ` James Cloos
2011-03-17 20:30 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-17 20:35 ` James Cloos
[not found] ` <87d3ln9b7y.fsf@stupidchicken.com>
2011-03-20 1:41 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-20 3:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-20 12:20 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-21 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-21 19:42 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-21 22:14 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-22 2:01 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 19:22 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:34 ` Application resource storage (was: Outgoing mail defaults) Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:58 ` Application resource storage Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 20:14 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 21:02 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 20:51 ` chad
2011-03-22 11:26 ` Outgoing mail defaults Simon Josefsson
2011-04-16 16:45 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-16 16:47 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-04-16 16:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
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