From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/76751 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: auth-source.el and eieio Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:39:04 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87vd0mnvnr.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: <87y65jqthf.fsf@gnus.org> <87tyg6skad.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj1isgsh.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hbc65xdi.fsf@randomsample.de> <87pqquqyu7.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8762sm2wyb.fsf@gnus.org> <87pqqupbpm.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vd0muxfk.fsf@gnus.org> <8739nq5mup.fsf@randomsample.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1297719626 31483 80.91.229.12 (14 Feb 2011 21:40:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 21:40:26 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25091@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Feb 14 22:40:22 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp69d-00026W-Hl for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:40:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp69U-0004PV-JI; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:40:12 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp69T-0004PF-5U for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:40:11 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp69S-0000GV-CS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 15:40:11 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp69R-00023f-Jm for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:40:09 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp69N-0001xc-FD for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:40:05 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:40:05 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:40:05 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KP0DAnmlhs8y38yuU9EynIGaeAQ= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:76751 Archived-At: On Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:26:38 +0100 David Engster wrote: DE> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: >> While it would mean less work not to support older Emacs versions, I >> think it would be nice to do so, if it's possible. DE> I agree it would be nice if Gnus would at least compile on older DE> Emacsen, but I think it's acceptable that some features don't work or DE> need additional packages. I think we have this situation already for DE> stuff needing EPG/EPA, for instance? There's no simple way to degrade auth-source.el if EIEIO is not present, unfortunately. I can special-case strings to mean authinfo files as a backend designator for all hosts and logins and defalias `oref' and `defclass' to 'ignore if EIEIO is not available. It will be ugly. I was hoping to start using EIEIO in other packages, though, hence this whole discussion. If we must support Emacs 23.1 then I can't do that. Ted