Re: Position of point in reply-with-original

[Antoine Levitt <antoine.levitt@gmail.com>]

03/02/11 23:25, Reiner Steib
> On Thu, Feb 03 2011, Antoine Levitt wrote:
>
>> There's message-cite-reply-above that does the trick, but is incredibly
>> condescending by
>>
>> - insulting you for wanting the option in the first place in the
>>   docstring
>
> I think the doc string (I wrote it, as well as the code) is neither
> condescending nor insulting:
>
> ,----[ <f1> v message-cite-reply-above RET ]
> | message-cite-reply-above is a variable defined in `message.el'.
> | Its value is nil
> | 
> | Documentation:
> | If non-nil, start own text above the quote.
> | 
> | Note: Top posting is bad netiquette.  Don't use it unless you
> | really must.  You probably want to set variable only for specific
> | groups, e.g. using `gnus-posting-styles':
> | 
> |   (eval (set (make-local-variable 'message-cite-reply-above) t))
> | 
> | This variable has no effect in news postings.
> `----
>
>> - ignoring the setting in news posting
>
> That's a feature.

Why? Again, if the user sets the variable despite the warnings, there's
a good chance he knows what he's doing.

>
>> - asking you if you're really really sure when you post
>>
>> It seems it's pretty standard use in mail, 
>
> Yes unfortunately, like HTML, missing line breaks, stupid disclaimers,
> "Sent from my whatever...", signatures without a separator, ...
>
>> and almost all "modern" clients (webmails, thunderbird, outlook and
>> such) have this as default.
>
> If you want , use it.
>
>> I'm not trying to start a flamewar as to which one is better, but we
>> should give the users the option.
>
> You have the option, as you already discovered.
>
> On Thu, Feb 03 2011, Antoine Levitt wrote:
>> But I for one would like to post above the cited text, at least in
>> mail. In the current state of affairs, I cannot do it without
>> modifying gnus' source code.
>
> Not true.
>
> Bye, Reiner.

I _can't_ use it, because I want to be able to use it in news posting
and not answer a yes-no question whenever I send a mail. See the
proposed patch in the other thread.