Re: Avoid opening secondary select methods as foreign servers

[asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)]

On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:10:47 -0500, Ted wrote:

> It seems OK to me but I haven't seen the problem you are fixing so I
> can't verify it works. Has anyone? Can you explan how to trigger the
> bug?

This turned out to be harder than I expected. My newsgroups and
configuration have developed over time...

However, here is the best recipe I could come up with:

 a) Start with an empty setup - no .newsrc*, Mail/ News/

 b) Add a .gnus file with this content:

      ; No primary server:
      (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil))

    and start Gnus.

  c) Use B to browse news.gmane.org and subscribe to three newsgroups.

  d) Quit Gnus and emacs, and change .gnus to this:

      ; No primary server:
      (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil))

      ; Access news.gmane.org via nntps:
      (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
              '((nntp "news.gmane.org"
                      (nntp-record-commands t)
                      (nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-tls-stream)
                      (nntp-port-number 563)
                      (nntp-address "snews.gmane.org"))))

      I.e. decide to go from a foreign server to a secondary one.

  e) Start emacs and Gnus. If you go to the server buffer, you'll see:

       {nnfolder:archive} (closed)
       {nndoc:gnus-help} (opened)
       {nntp:news.gmane.org} (denied)
       {nntp:news.gmane.org} (denied)

      And the gnus-opened-servers variable looks like this:

       Value: (((nndoc "gnus-help" (nndoc-address
       "/home/test/elisp/gnus/etc/gnus-tut.txt") (nndoc-article-type
       mbox)) ok) ((nntp "news.gmane.org") denied) ((nntp
       "news.gmane.org" (nntp-record-commands t)
       (nntp-open-connection-function nntp-open-tls-stream)
       (nntp-port-number 563) (nntp-address "snews.gmane.org")) denied))

      TWO news.gmane.org entries, one with and one without the
      configuration.

A couple of weird things: In my usual setup, the news.gmane.org server
without configuration is NOT denied, it just connects unencrypted.

I had to do the foreign server dance to get .newsrc.eld to contain
(nntp "news.gmane.org") instead of "nntp:gmane.org" - the latter is used
if the server is defined as a secondary method when subscribing, the
former if the server is foreign when subscribing.

I may be able to simply solve my problem by doing a search and replace
on (nntp "news.gmane.org") to "nntp:news.gmane.org" in my .newsrc.eld,
and maybe that is the correct solution...

I think I just confused myself.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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 "May the force be...                                         Adam Sjøgren
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