From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67461 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Bug#499774: starttls is a joke Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:14:49 +0200 Message-ID: <87vdwiip86.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <871vzca7gp.fsf@natisbad.org> <87y71kpmq7.fsf@bubble.risko.hu> <87ljxi3oty.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tzc61abc.fsf@news.realpath.org> <87y71fjb90.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <8763oj2bc1.fsf@freemail.hu> Reply-To: Uwe Brauer NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222463771 15048 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2008 21:16:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:16:11 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15912@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Sep 26 23:17:09 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KjKgP-0005bX-KI for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:17:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KjKeW-0003BO-PA; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:15:04 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KjKeV-0003B3-CD for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:15:03 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KjKeT-0001pJ-8H for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:15:03 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KjKeX-0003J1-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 23:15:05 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KjKeR-0000Ym-UN for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:14:59 +0000 Original-Received: from 81.202.187.15.dyn.user.ono.com ([81.202.187.15]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:14:59 +0000 Original-Received: from oub by 81.202.187.15.dyn.user.ono.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 21:14:59 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.202.187.15.dyn.user.ono.com X-Hashcash: 1:20:080926:gmane.emacs.gnus.general::aROaYfgJ6boSPjz7:00000000000000000000000000000000000002zzb User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.4.19 (linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:j/aaNoifUVLqnLHks6ACy9XdZ24= X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67461 Archived-At: >>>>> "Magnus" == Magnus Henoch writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: >> The other thing however is jabber (for gmail chat). It seems to be that >> it is using tls. >> >> (setq jabber-connection-type (quote ssl)) > In this configuration, it uses either openssl or gnutls-cli, and would > thus not be affected by the removal of the starttls utility. > By default jabber.el uses STARTTLS, using starttls.el. In theory > it should work with the starttls program (see the variable > starttls-use-gnutls), but I've never tested it; I'm quite happy > with gnutls-cli. Well I have ,---- | `starttls-use-gnutls' is a variable declared in Lisp. | -- loaded from "starttls" | | Value: nil | | Documentation: | *Whether to use GNUTLS instead of the `starttls' command. `---- so I use starttls.