From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/64112 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: The displaying of ISO-8859-15 Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:32:40 +0100 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <87vekekbsn.fsf@bang.priv.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1166092467 9896 80.91.229.10 (14 Dec 2006 10:34:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:34:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ding-owner+M12635@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Dec 14 11:34:26 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Gunup-0006om-Hx for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:34:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Guntx-0008GK-6u; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:33:21 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Guntv-0008G0-2J for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:33:19 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Guntr-0002Fl-JS for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 04:33:18 -0600 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1Guntq-00062N-00 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:33:14 +0100 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Gunta-0005mh-VG for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:32:58 +0100 Original-Received: from pat-gw.osl.fast.no ([217.144.235.5]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:32:58 +0100 Original-Received: from sb by pat-gw.osl.fast.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 14 Dec 2006 11:32:58 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 41 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pat-gw.osl.fast.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:uVWv/l4Q4KufFt4EwRUvQ/2rqfI= X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:64112 Archived-At: Platform: Intel Pentium M, Ubuntu Dapper, emacs21 21.4a-3ubuntu2, No Gnus v0.6 (CVS update from May 1 2006) The good people at Opera has at one point in time made the bad decision of promoting ISO-8859-15 as the default charset in email and news messages sent from the Opera browser (at least when running in a Western European locale). One annoying thing is that if this setting is changed to eg. ISO-8859-1, the setting isn't preserved when Opera is upgraded. And experience has shown that admonishing Opera users to change their charset setting, can be tiring on both the admonisher and the admonished... So I figured out how to make Gnus cast replies and followups to 8859-15 messages into 8859-1 when responding, and was satisfied with that. The main reason (apart from the purely aestethical dislike of iso-8859-15 as a concept) for being annoyed with ISO-8859-15, is that Gnus on my platform (see above) picked a bug-ugly font for those characters. I've filed that under "probably caused by the fonts installed on my platform, and not something I'd spend time on". But today I did `C-u g' in the summary buffer to see the headers of an ISO-8859-15 message. And down in the message body, the ISO-8859-15 characters were shown in the same font as the surrounding US-ASCII. Ie. the same font ISO-8859-1 characters would have been shown in. It then dawned on me that configuring the display of ISO-8859-15 in messages is possibly something that Gnus can do. Eg. decide to display it like ISO-8859-1 or something (who needs that silly Euro char anyways...?). Does anyone know? Thanx! - Steinar