From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/56644 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: deskpot@despammed.com (Vasily Korytov) Newsgroups: gmane.discuss,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: [Q]: How good is gmane for you ? Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 00:18:33 +0300 Sender: gmane-discuss-admin@hawk.netfonds.no Message-ID: <87vfldsora.fsf@unix.home.local> References: <87r7w9d2x1.fsf@unix.home.local> <87fzcnm4x3.fsf@unix.home.local> <87smgmrvxr.fsf@unix.home.local> <87fzciuhbl.fsf@era.iki.fi> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1078868473 3663 80.91.224.253 (9 Mar 2004 21:41:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2004 21:41:13 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: gmane-discuss-admin@hawk.netfonds.no Tue Mar 09 22:41:05 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B0oyG-0006Za-00 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:41:04 +0100 Original-Received: from hawk.netfonds.no ([80.91.224.246]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B0oyG-0007GP-00 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:41:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=hawk.netfonds.no) by hawk.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B0oyE-0004qi-00; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:41:02 +0100 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.224.249]) by hawk.netfonds.no with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B0oxn-0004qZ-00 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:40:35 +0100 Original-Received: from list by main.gmane.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1B0oxn-0006i3-00 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:40:35 +0100 Original-Received: from d180-70.dialup.relline.ru ([195.146.70.180]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:40:35 +0100 Original-Received: from deskpot by d180-70.dialup.relline.ru with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 09 Mar 2004 22:40:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: gmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.no Original-To: gmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.no Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: d180-70.dialup.relline.ru Mail-Copies-To: never Cancel-Lock: sha1:SRZzyGoatTYr4VaW6a249GDyHbo= Errors-To: gmane-discuss-admin@hawk.netfonds.no X-BeenThere: gmane-discuss@hawk.netfonds.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.discuss:5725 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56644 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:56644 On 09 Mar 2004 18:20:16 +0200, era wrote: > I went over that particular group and tried to the best of my ability > to fix it (but that includes complete disability to understand any > Russian, although I guess I manage to decipher a bit of cyrillics when > I have to). > > It should be moderately readable over Loom now, but of course, the > NNTP view will only have the spam marked whenever Lars runs another > commit run. > > The list really has been getting a lot of spam lately. Having it set > up to subscribers only would definitely help. There seems to be a > fairly stable set of regular posters but of course, if you're not one > of them, that doesn't help much, usability-wise. Thanks a lot! Unfortunately, it has always been so in xemacs-users-russian: too low traffic, too much spam. Surely, it's a list problem, not gmane's. Upper in the thread (87r7w9d2x1.fsf@unix.home.local, not on gmane.discuss) I've just said: | [...] But if you're subscribed to the lists, where spam takes a large | amount of traffic, using gmane for them is the thing, I wouldn't | recommend. Local spamassassin does help me much better, then Gmane | spam filtering (yeah, I know, I can ``report as spam'' and such -- but | using a dial-up it's really not comfortable). [...] I'm still with this opinion. Gmane may be not ideal for such lists -- but I must admit, they're b0rked anyway -- local hacks and filters may really perform better. It's not because gmane is bad -- it's wonderful. It's just.. life. =)) Thanks again. -- I accept RFC3156 and RFC2440-compatible encrypted mail. PGP key fingerprint: 3273 7F6F 7B87 5DD5 9848 05FB E442 86BC 2E6B 6831