From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/54093 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Lewis Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnus-level-default-subscribed: documentation or behavior bug? 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When I noticed > gnus-level-default subscribed, and read the docs to gnus-no-server, I > thought I had a solution. With regard to gnus-no-server ther docs > say: > > it will just activate all groups on level 1 and 2. (You should > preferably keep no native groups on those two levels.) > > So I put (setq gnus-level-default-subscribed 2) in my .emacs, thinking > that would do the trick, and forgot about it, not needing > gnus-no-server right then... > > However, recently I've needed to use gnus-no-server, and when I call > it it, none of my mail groups show up. Looking at the code, this is > because gnus-no-server calls gnus-no-server-1, which doesn't just > activate groups in level 1 or 2 (as the docs indicate), but rather > bases the levels on gnus-level-default-subscribed: > > (defun gnus-no-server-1 (&optional arg slave) > ... > (let ((val (or arg (1- gnus-level-default-subscribed)))) > (gnus val t slave) > > So am I right in presuming that the docs should probably mention the > interaction with gnus-level-default-subscribed, and if so, then is > there any other way to tell gnus to use a particular level as the > default for all the groups from a particular backend (i.e. my nnml > backend)? > One partial solution: (setq gnus-level-default-subscribed 2) (setq gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method 'gnus-subscribe-topics) And then have a "New" topic with things like ((subscribe . "^nntp") (subscribe-level . 3)) to put new nntp groups on level 3. Alternatively use gnus-unplugged instead of gnus-no-server