From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/46210 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alex Schroeder Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Paul Graham on fighting SPAM Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 04:21:54 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87vg637hvh.fsf@emacswiki.org> References: <87d6sf42ys.fsf@emacswiki.org> <871y8u7un8.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87fzxa7ala.fsf@emacswiki.org> <87d6se9dsy.fsf@emacswiki.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1029982868 11963 127.0.0.1 (22 Aug 2002 02:21:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 02:21:08 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17hhan-00036R-00 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 04:21:01 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17hhaQ-0007Zx-00; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 21:20:38 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 21 Aug 2002 21:21:09 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA29702 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2002 21:20:57 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 8387 invoked by alias); 22 Aug 2002 02:20:21 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 8382 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2002 02:20:21 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 22 Aug 2002 02:20:21 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17hi1b-0004sr-00 for ; Thu, 22 Aug 2002 04:48:43 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 27 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: dclient217-162-239-43.hispeed.ch Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1029984523 18058 217.162.239.43 (22 Aug 2002 02:48:43 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 22 Aug 2002 02:48:43 GMT X-Face: ^BC$`[IcggstLPyen&dqF+b2'zyK#r.mU*'Nms}@&4zw%SJ#5!/7SMVjBS7'lb;QK)|IPU5U'o1'522W4TyzB3Ab*IBo^iw]l4|kUbdZuUDO6=Um-.4IzhNiV'B"@K#jy_(wW|Zbk[34flKY^|PrQ?$u2\fKg^]AY>wOX#H32i User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.2.90 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3gR4Qyrk0fkEM7CxTrdoKbTlQpk= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46210 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:46210 Ted Zlatanov writes: > Why not just mark spam messages that have been processed as expired? > I doubt users will want to keep spam messages around :) I still do not understand. Here is my problem again: When the user leaves the summary buffer, there are five possibilities: 1. The message was new and the user thinks it is non-spam. Call spam-stat-buffer-is-non-spam. 2. The message was new and the user thinks it is spam. Call spam-stat-buffer-is-spam. 3. The message was old and marked as spam but the user no longer thinks it is spam. Call spam-stat-buffer-change-to-non-spam. 4. The message was old and marked as non-spam but the user now thinks it is spam. Call spam-stat-buffer-change-to-spam. 5. The message is old and its spam-status unchanged, or unread. Nothing happens. How to distinguish between these cases? Note that I posted a new version to g.e.sources, which requires less effort to build, can be updated on the fly, and has a tiny testing infrastructure, plus test data by myself with a tiny set of mails. Alex.