From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.8 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (mx1.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.32]) by inbox.vuxu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 342A72834E for ; Wed, 22 May 2024 19:26:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s9pjE-00000000PvJ-1bIJ for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Wed, 22 May 2024 12:26:21 -0500 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s9pjE-00000004j53-0lHG for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Wed, 22 May 2024 12:26:16 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s9pjB-00000004j4u-2JXQ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 May 2024 12:26:13 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.97.1) (envelope-from ) id 1s9pj7-00000007eug-228Y for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 22 May 2024 12:26:13 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:References: In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=+FMPnus2/qT++/1BtUeVl6RgKM2y73XVM+UAy94uoG8=; b=Qt8Uemwx2vfc2KkkHt98xjn170 MsuoPUanYnGpkjA0NA0wpvHTUOpHjXiYQvuVYJo7UhrxmA7JCDHIJxmYd0JvaNiYstQvt2Ca/xsdW oE9PtTgSNELnDtDn+RSl0daLlayxX90aOoIQ4es43IekgYbqMyN5feZn7Z8QNRxODxb4=; Received: from haven.eyrie.org ([2602:f977:800:0:e276:63ff:fe62:3539]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1s9pik-0004rA-KR for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 22 May 2024 19:25:49 +0200 Received: from gwaihir.eyrie.org (unknown [96.90.234.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by haven.eyrie.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F19FC118066 for ; Wed, 22 May 2024 10:25:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by gwaihir.eyrie.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 12D96684531B; Wed, 22 May 2024 10:25:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Russ Allbery To: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Updating definition of "bogus" groups? In-Reply-To: <87msoi6i3f.fsf@dataswamp.org> (Emanuel Berg's message of "Wed, 22 May 2024 16:23:32 +0200") Organization: The Eyrie References: <87zfsi9408.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871q5ufb7a.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87msoi6i3f.fsf@dataswamp.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Date: Wed, 22 May 2024 10:25:33 -0700 Message-ID: <87wmnlwygi.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk Emanuel Berg writes: > But instead of getting confused by terminology, which is always going to > be incorrect to some degree in any applied endeavor, if we are talking > `gnus-check-bogus-newsgroups', what is that it does that is useful? What > to do, or not do for that matter, should be based on that. I've never been clear on what this function does that I would want to do and why it's bound to a key. I've only run it when I pressed b by mistake, and it's never done anything. I may just be not using the part of Gnus where it would be useful? My experience is that when a newsgroup that I'm reading is removed, it shows up with a * for the article count, so it's pretty obvious that it's been deleted and I can either delete the corresponding group in Gnus or investigate what's going on. But maybe there are scenarios that involve hidden groups where it makes sense to explicitly check for these? -- Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org)