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[141.239.241.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b5-20020a170903228500b001c727d3ea6bsm189212plh.74.2023.10.19.14.54.23 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Thu, 19 Oct 2023 14:54:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Newell To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: Strange article sorting from Gmail In-Reply-To: <87leby8lha.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Thu, 19 Oct 2023 12:23:45 -0700") Organization: Avi Gobbler Publishing References: <87zg0fwvbs.iubsb@wlybrphk.wbcf.org> <87leby8lha.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2023 11:54:22 -1000 Message-ID: <87wmviffch.sftc@vgqdokvq.lyrdyko.com> User-Agent: Safari/6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk > Well that sounds very annoying! I suppose you already tried "M-g" to > request a new scan of this group in particular? Sure did, and even went to the extreme of temporarily nuking .newsrc.eld to force a complete rebuild of the group. No luck. The fault is clearly on the gmail side. And of course as mentioned if I load ALL the headers into gnus, gnus then sorts by date as expected. However I'm not thrilled about loading 28,000 headers during each gnus session. > I do wish I understood what Gmail is doing there, to reset the article > numbers, and if there were anything Gnus could do automatically to > handle it more gracefully. It has never happened before. Something evidently triggered it but I think it will forever remain a mystery. I did search around for a way to make gmail's IMAP fix the numbering by renumbering everything by date, but so far I've not found a way to do that. (Well, there actually is. I could download all 28,000 emails --- not just the headers but the full text and all the mime parts --- then delete everything from the server, then restore everything by uploading all 28,000 messages. I lack the courage, though.) -- Bob Newell Honolulu, Hawai`i - Via GNU/Linux/Emacs/Gnus/BBDB