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Do you refer to this? >> Deleting article /home/felix/News/drafts/drafts/191 in drafts... -> it deleted the draft message :) > You have special GCC settings? I do not think so. Here are all smtpmail settings: ;; sending mail: this requires a more recent (2005) version of smtpmail.el ;; (/usr/share/doc/gnus/contrib) (require 'smtpmail) (setq message-send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it send-mail-function 'smtpmail-send-it smtpmail-smtp-server "mail.gmx.net" smtpmail-local-domain nil smtpmail-debug-info t) (setq smtpmail-debug-verb t) (setq smtpmail-default-smtp-server "mail.gmx.net") (setq smtpmail-auth-credentials '(("mail.gmx.net" 25 "USER" "SECRET"))) (setq smtpmail-starttls-credentials '(("mail.gmx.net" 25 nil nil))) ;; this is still needed, even with STARTTLS (setq smtpmail-smtp-service 25) ;; TLS stuff ;; use external GNUTLS to fix auth problems... (setq starttls-use-gnutls t starttls-gnutls-program "gnutls-cli" starttls-extra-arguments nil) Is there anything wrong with it? I noticed that I loaded a custom smtpmail.el (see comment above), which I exchanged with: /usr/share/emacs/27.1/lisp/mail/smtpmail.elc now. > Check if this gives you more info:=20 > > ; Debug Smtp > (setq smtpmail-debug-info t) > (setq smtpmail-debug-verb t) I have added -verb t, but it does not seem to make a difference.( (there is a trace buffer, but it does not contain more information than *Messages*). It looks like the messages are sent, but not saved in the archive mbox files... Any ideas would be appreciated! Best Regards, Felix --=20 Felix Natter debian/rules!