From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 25624 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2021 17:06:01 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Jan 2021 17:06:01 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1l4Rmx-003pYf-W9 for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:06:00 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1l4Rmx-008gUj-D9 for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:05:59 -0600 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1l4Rmw-008gUd-HY for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:05:58 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1l4Rmf-003mY8-Ld for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 11:05:58 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=CkK+UxuYJaOfsV5cgNXTgP35XfgTWZMxvepYlKfQZjs=; b=K28Q2iiTePmcZbFedxEriHSQRf Ix5mB/bdOHXrcHd/k/oX2svBwMVX7Venj0w1VD7P/474zZUsQdnRppn62BAA5vOYf8sz1rG5bYkdP N4svwWFe0l3KmxdZbwJmWh0IzsI5wek1vd+ysOMfMAwud5e+z/uisFS15V55r42Zm1Pw=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4RmY-0003db-M2 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 18:05:37 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1l4RmX-0004kw-WA for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 26 Jan 2021 18:05:34 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Harry Putnam Subject: Re: howto have nnimap setup for smtp out Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:05:02 -0500 Organization: Still searching... Message-ID: <87wnvz39z5.fsf@local.lan> References: <87czxzprau.fsf@local.lan> <87zh1337ui.fsf@dick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+Ne9vk82AhsW+LVsd+cWmJPWjgE= List-ID: Precedence: bulk dick.r.chiang@gmail.com writes: > To reader@newsguy.com, > > In a previous post, you asserted Windows'ness. I refrained from chiming in > then because I only know what works under GNU/Linux. But your questions this > iteration really betray a deep-seated confusion. That was in desperation after so much trouble on my linux hosts.. I have a windows host but have done nearly all mail on linux or Solaris for many years. > Outgoing is orthogonal to nnimap. I will not mention nnimap henceforth except > to say nnimap-gmail without dovecot is unusable with any serious email volume. I see I've stated the nnimap bit in way that seems I don't know that nnimap is not involved in smtp. My meaning was certainly unclear, but what I was talking about is adding smtp code into my exisiting nnimap groups defined in gnus like: (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnimap "harrygp3" (nnimap-address "imap.gmail.com"))) I was talking about adding smtp out code to the lines above Sorry for the confusion and thank you for the gentle nudge when you could justifiably been a lot pricklier. > The casual user should not attempt outgoing with sendmail or postfix. Use a > thing called "msmtp" to wrangle smtp.gmail.com. Probably true but I've managed to have one or another mta running semi-continously since about 1996 when I first started blundering around with linux. I would still be pounding along on my trusty debian (stretch) host with full mta right now, as I have for the last 5 or so years when I moved everything off of gentoo hosts, but I managed to competely delete beyond hope my entire host (a vm) along with years of notes and working configs for sendmail, postfix, and exim4 All of which I used for mta at one time or another > A reference setup can be found in > > https://github.com/dickmao/gnus-imap-walkthrough/blob/master/dot.msmtprc thanks for the pointer... I did readup a bit on msmtp during my tribulations with sendmail but failed on it as well. It all seems to revolve around a lack of a real resolvable host. And the fact that internet mail has become a good bit more complex that it was even just 5-7 yrs ago. Not sure why that lack of being resolvable doesn't even come up using the smtp send-it code, but I am right glad to quit fussing with it.