From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, FREEMAIL_FROM,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12211 invoked from network); 20 Sep 2020 10:33:44 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 20 Sep 2020 10:33:44 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kJwf7-00FFQm-Eg for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 05:33:41 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kJwf5-00FFQe-2s for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 05:33:39 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kJwf1-00GoBX-T4 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 05:33:38 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References :Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=QzB2VyCxnqtfefGnTZI3/UnmlrDDtGxCNsWO9vRtzRU=; b=bK98c3kNJXKE1n44S2GngvQj46 M61QVspa2TFLauuMjf5nELWMWjjDJuPIYZ42bwyuCdT8EJ3Xflaq/28uCQSXc9qXgpfSqy8uQ2FZK Genn7VSEjC5jjSXjfRhCFJVn2gpL0bzVf4C3CoZVSMcJnMxcrYzo+eMwWCJHkcrt5LO4=; Received: from static.214.254.202.116.clients.your-server.de ([116.202.254.214] helo=ciao.gmane.io) by quimby with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJwev-0006Je-47 for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 12:33:31 +0200 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kJwet-0002E9-AW for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 12:33:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org To: ding@gnus.org From: Kevin Shell Subject: Re: Gnus wrong message threading Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 18:33:17 +0800 Message-ID: <87wo0o20wi.fsf@fedora.osfans.org> References: <875z8afr56.fsf@fedora.osfans.org> <87sgbef1rs.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87d02hlvjp.fsf@fedora.osfans.org> <87h7rtg8ql.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87o8m1gosz.fsf@fedora.osfans.org> <878sd4ojxy.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TIMWJJzuYizIE53K4F0gu4Oghx8= Mail-Copies-To: never List-ID: Precedence: bulk Adam Sjøgren writes: > Kevin writes: > >> Two reply messages with no In-Reply-To/References headers linked >> to the wrong parent message, maybe it's a bug with Gnus. > >> The two messages' ID are: >> Message-ID: >> >> >> Message-ID: >> <20120116105258.46140@gmx.com> > > The thread looks like this: > > . [ 58: Dwayne Henderson ] Improving the WHOIS format > . [ 39: Jase Thew ] > . [ 48: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 65: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 63: Jase Thew ] > . [ 176: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 198: Charles Howard ] > . [ 98: Dylan Thiedeke ] > . [ 38: Marc Hartstein ] > . [ 16: Mark ] > . [ 25: Jase Thew ] > . [ 80: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 20: Jase Thew ] > . [ 77: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 45: Marc Hartstein ] > . [ 76: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 48: David Romano ] > . [ 25: David Romano ] > . [ 78: Charles Howard ] > **. < 107: Tony > > . [ 29: David Romano ] > . [ 143: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 173: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 73: Tony ] > . [ 18: David Romano ] > . < 67: David Romano > > . [ 162: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 123: David Romano ] > . [ 362: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 93: David Romano ] > . [ 293: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 59: tabris ] > . [ 53: David Romano ] > . [ 170: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 30: Marc Hartstein ] > . [ 60: Dwayne Henderson ] > . [ 49: Ross Timson ] > **. < 50: Marra Hemsedal > > . [ 14: Timo Sirainen ] > > The two emails you say are threaded wrong I have marked with **. > My Gnus is configured with: (setq gnus-summary-line-format "%U%R%z%B%s -- %n\n") (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-root "● ") (setq gnus-sum-thread-tree-single-leaf "`->") Viewing with this config is straightforward. > Where would you have expected them to be linked, when all that connects > them is the Subject, as they have no In-Reply-To/References? > How about linked to root message with special marks characters and add two commands/functions like link-threads break-thread and let the user joining the two threads together. > Would you have preferred that they weren't included in the same thread? > > If so, you can set gnus-summary-thread-gathering-function to > 'gnus-gather-threads-by-references. > [...] >> They are web mailers that don't generate In-Reply-To and References headers. > > Really? I'm quite sure that both Gmail and GMX generate In-Reply-To and > Reference headers when you reply to an email. > > If Gmail didn't there would have been an uproar. > > You are right that those two emails do not have In-Reply-To and > Reference headers, but emails from Gmail and GMX usually do. They are mails back in year *2012*. -- kevin