From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87404 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: ignore bcc when followup Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:49:12 +0100 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark Message-ID: <87wpch1393.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> References: <87y3wy8hd0.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87o9xuc87b.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87ino1hpu1.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <8737f5dfur.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <8760k1i4qw.fsf@mat.ucm.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1487854243 13813 195.159.176.226 (23 Feb 2017 12:50:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:50:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m35625@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Feb 23 13:50:39 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.34]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cgsqx-0002j0-9q for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:50:35 +0100 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048034.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id ad336f9d-f9c6-11e6-b719-b499baa2b07a; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 12:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cgspw-000186-6V; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 06:49:32 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cgspu-00017f-JR for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 06:49:30 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cgspt-00012x-19 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 06:49:30 -0600 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1cgspr-0003Lv-LE for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:49:27 +0100 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1cgspf-0003w6-Im for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:49:15 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 94 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc Mail-Follow-Up-To: never X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ ^St'=VZBR Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87404 Archived-At: Uwe writes: >>>> "Adam" == Adam Sjøgren writes: > > Gnus, mutt and Gmail all remove the Bcc header from both the email sent > > to the original recipient AND from the blind carbon copy. > No they don't at least gnus does not, in my previous email the example I > gave were generated by gnus, that is gnus display the BCC field, in a > message which was sent my gnus, I wonder why he does not do it for you. Gnus does not send the Bcc header neither to the recipient in To: nor to the recipient in Bcc:. Example: I am sending this email from Gnus: To: asjoegren@gmail.com Bcc: asjo@mcom.com Subject: Test of Bcc From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) Gcc: nnml+archive:mail-2017 Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc --text follows this line-- Test of Bcc -- "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking Adam Sjøgren at the stars." asjo@koldfront.dk This is the conversation between Gnus and the mail server: 220 tullinup.koldfront.dk ESMTP Postfix (Debian/GNU). EHLO tullinup. 250-tullinup.koldfront.dk. 250-PIPELINING. 250-SIZE 209715200. 250-VRFY. 250-ETRN. 250-STARTTLS. 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES. 250-8BITMIME. 250-DSN. 250 SMTPUTF8. MAIL FROM: SIZE=1032. 250 2.1.0 Ok. RCPT TO:. 250 2.1.5 Ok. RCPT TO:. 250 2.1.5 Ok. DATA. 354 End data with .. From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj=C3=B8gren?=) To: asjoegren@gmail.com. Subject: Test of Bcc. Organization: koldfront - analysis & revolution, Copenhagen, Denmark. User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux). X-Hashcash: 1:21:170223:asjoegren@gmail.com::qtSNPl6AEL11AAqE:000000000000000000000000000000000000000000mh2T. OpenPGP: id=476630590A231909B0A0961A49D0746121BDE416; url=https://asjo.koldfront.dk/gpg.asc. X-Face: )qY&CseJ?.:=8F#^~GcSA?F=9eu'{KAFfL1C3/A&:nE?PW\i65"ba0NS)97,Q(^@xk}n4Ou. rPuR#V8I(J_@~H($[ym:`K_+]*kjvW>xH5jbgLBVFGXY:(#4P>zVBklLbdL&XxL\M)%T}3S/IS9lMJ. ^St'=VZBR. MIME-Version: 1.0. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8. Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable. . Test of Bcc. . --=20. "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking Adam Sj=C3=B8=. gren. at the stars." asjo@koldfront.dk. .. 250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 8542210053471. As you can see, Gnus does NOT send the Bcc-header, it sends the email without the Bcc-header to the two recipients. It does, however, store the Bcc header in the *local copy* of the email, so *you* can see that you did in fact Bcc. Best regards, Adam -- "It's not denial. I'm just very selective about the Adam Sjøgren reality I accept." asjo@koldfront.dk