From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/86463 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Albinus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.sxemacs.devel,gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving Gnus development to Emacs? Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:43:06 +0100 Message-ID: <87wpruyhbp.fsf@gmx.de> References: <87lh8b6jnl.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1451562218 31943 80.91.229.3 (31 Dec 2015 11:43:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:43:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen , sxemacs-devel@sxemacs.org, yamaoka@jpl.org, ding@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: David Engster Original-X-From: sxemacs-devel-bounces@lists.sxemacs.org Thu Dec 31 12:43:25 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gesd-sxemacs-devel-2@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from zapata.dreamhost.com ([66.33.216.56]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aEbdc-0002Ei-Rv for gesd-sxemacs-devel-2@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:43:25 +0100 Original-Received: from zapata.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapata.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 759728DB01D6; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 03:43:22 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from homiemail-mx7.g.dreamhost.com (mx2.sub3.homie.mail.dreamhost.com [69.163.253.9]) by zapata.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D14A8DB01D6 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 03:43:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from diehard.dreamhost.com (caiajhbdcbfh.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.157]) by homiemail-mx7.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1596A1B5A3D8 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 03:43:21 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by diehard.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949D017BE084 for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 03:43:20 -0800 (PST) X-DH-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at diehard.dreamhost.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.001 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.001 tagged_above=-999 required=999 tests=[FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001] autolearn=disabled Original-Received: from godfather.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.17]) by localhost (diehard.dreamhost.com [208.97.132.157]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id prMP1l85oqua for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 03:43:20 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) by godfather.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D45F91EC00A for ; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 03:43:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from detlef.gmx.de ([87.146.51.9]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ld0jY-1ZoNZT0d4C-00iBr6; Thu, 31 Dec 2015 12:43:15 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87lh8b6jnl.fsf@isaac.fritz.box> (David Engster's message of "Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:40:14 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:jwk63fZcC6cjvB/r7d1L0mcZsTzkOqVkC0og5i7s5Wyvn66KHiT t7SWnTgnucGJ2W2S6/bKrczyRx8ZwVkH0ZaAJ3A7SYYiXlRLqigiebZ53Jqz/kTRhb0K56I RlbJQukWspMyoh1Uo3TG819+tQTYjy/wbFQVEm1KSLXrSChzCMTUGItFBhFHgqOz7NVDqnR 95SioRZopcu+K4uzsB6YQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:UC3i+oXV/+E=:fllHpCxBCPDPSnocmS+f6+ 7ISFkDhDIUhmEJDEEeZo4wExy0Y6W+t5I+D6bpWYF2M84YHychRpdI0wBrX/KJuen+M4p2FR4 erERMLcHpHbNv6X5T9wf57wRY/P6PEpuhwZpCY9FCjz7NjnB880oKl7d/FcqoCOpRfBwEYvBs QRRS1x0qBcYHvns5xDjFPDJxsd8h+TLiDFubfvIDxX1+2iMglz7a77VxTLF+RUSm3E0WJH/pa v/W/QUhlNOrjYnX3hv9zoVNf/4bVNF5PqzAAm8HJQSlVc1uAI4DTAqGYgDO+NXBaxrB52O8Z4 kwlrfexEMOhOUt8HWoddyxA7mge7nqXNgjC7irSkxcXhNA10SqOZCQ5JzMYXZmbGAJ9bLyqxF b/pQdfqLjT5vEnPALjkcgeMUixuVs1Lbmn90AIaMLnD6FG26Hsj8Rs9m86aByU+/akrdNuzGE c0BOOoPrht8Ct8Zdm2dGUS8zgE4YTBOKNEacdUlzEjhZKfjppGtmRS3SwYfU1pLKMjDlES73g YcRgjbnQSLUxO8YxXUyK/sKgFySCtgoDirOwVl7utRdJNV5jygCoiMqXapjq/cy3jrg8vOpkO 7KE5JaIFgD8Q1yFTVXWuMglOpTn0VbPlgshb8ik3rB/CP8mzugpyZW2jf4gq4nBjH7sg8Eha9 bcdGDM3/2SXC2OPuVv1QE0qyiPXOZ5jRUZwErWPkTa3nBOLpmlXdrWTydttbCM3O1x5GmMKqa 8NVqxTU0QC1PyAY0GxT+nv22e9++N22s7SXWVuML5AgQlK0r90siWjNhiGODknNB7R7cFOsz X-BeenThere: sxemacs-devel@lists.sxemacs.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: SXEmacs developers' list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: sxemacs-devel-bounces@lists.sxemacs.org Original-Sender: "SXEmacs-Devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.sxemacs.devel:3582 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:86463 gmane.emacs.devel:197249 Archived-At: David Engster writes: > No objections from me (I'm currently doing the same for CEDET, for > pretty much the same reasons), but just to clarify: this means that we > only care about the current Emacs version and do not do separate > releases anymore? I'm mostly worried about how this will affect the > T-shirt release process. Tramp will also remove the XEmacs compat code (and the compat code for Emacs 22, to be precise). But the development will still be outside Emacs, in order to support older Emacsen but master, and in order to release more frequently than Emacs. One idea is to add Tramp also to ELPA, as subtree. People could get than a newer version of Tramp than the built-in. This decision is not T-shirt driven, I fear the market for Tramp T-shirts is much too small. > -David Best regards, Michael.