From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83167 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rainer@krugs.de (Rainer M. Krug) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: isync plus dovecot? Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 11:13:37 +0200 Message-ID: <87wqqy9dfi.fsf@krugs.de> References: <874ne3xwpu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87d2srf4yp.fsf@uwo.ca> <874ne2uudj.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1368782081 27096 80.91.229.3 (17 May 2013 09:14:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:14:41 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M31433@lists.math.uh.edu Fri May 17 11:14:40 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UdGkJ-0000pX-QI for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 11:14:40 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UdGjZ-0004Cv-2K; Fri, 17 May 2013 04:13:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1UdGjX-0004Cd-G8 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 May 2013 04:13:51 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1UdGjW-0001Rs-0e for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 17 May 2013 04:13:51 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UdGjU-0004sW-Jk for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 11:13:48 +0200 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UdGjT-00008J-8G for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 17 May 2013 11:13:47 +0200 Original-Received: from arn78-1-88-186-171-7.fbx.proxad.net ([88.186.171.7]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 May 2013 11:13:47 +0200 Original-Received: from Rainer by arn78-1-88-186-171-7.fbx.proxad.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 17 May 2013 11:13:47 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 66 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: arn78-1-88-186-171-7.fbx.proxad.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:KiqirnOY8kM1OuybbDWOoObgp2k= X-Spam-Score: -2.5 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83167 Archived-At: Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Dan Christensen writes: > >> Eric Abrahamsen writes: >> >>> I'm finally trying to ditch nnml for mail reading, and move to imap. >>> Offlineimap plus dovecot seems to be a popular solution (I am offline a >>> lot), but I also saw a lot of complaints about offlineimap, and the >>> suggestion of isync/mbsync as a replacement. >> >> I've used offlineimap for a couple of years, and I find it works well. >> I've posted on the offlineimap list a way to get it to sync some of >> the Gnus specific flags, like gnus-expire. If you can't find the >> message, let me know and I'll dig it up. >> >>> Specifically, you tell offlineimap to deliver to dovecot with a line >>> like: >>> >>> preauthtunnel = /usr/lib/dovecot/imap -o mail_location=maildir:$HOME/Maildir >>> >>> I can't find the equivalent command for mbsync. >> >> Nothing in my .offlineimaprc mentions dovecot, and I don't use a >> preauthtunnel. I just tell offlineimap to connect to an IMAP server >> at 127.0.0.1 and to another IMAP server at a certain host name. >> >>> Is it enough just to have mbsync dump to a Maildir directly, and then >>> tell gnus to access that maildir via dovecot? >> >> That might work too, but I decided to let dovecot be in charge of the >> Maildir directory, and make both Gnus and offlineimap interact with that >> directory via the IMAP protocol. My method of syncing the non-standard >> flags relies on this. >> >> I'm also curious to hear about alternatives to offlineimap, so I hope >> some people reply with their experience. > > Ugh, clearly I just don't know enough about how this all actually works > to make an informed decision. I don't even really get what letting > dovecot "be in charge of the Maildir directory" really means. And if the > other Eric is able to use the native Gnus agent and it works fine > offline, why is everyone jumping through all these hoops? preauthtunnel simply means (from my ignorant understanding of dovecot et al) that you don't have to supply a password to connect to the local imap server, but that you (the user) use dovecot (imap) directly to access you maildir. It is *still* via docecot and even Erics setup should work with the usage of the preauth tunnel instead of localhost. Direct Maildir access is a different story. Rainer > > Maybe I'll just spend some time with google until I actually understand > what's happening... > > Thanks, > Eric > > PS I'm also using gmail. Actually I have four addresses, all of them > google, three of them google apps domains. Yeesh > > >