* gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
@ 2011-09-08 14:32 jidanni
2011-09-10 19:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: jidanni @ 2011-09-08 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
Gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore if I forget upon
sending. Indeed, no reminder if there is no content either.
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-08 14:32 gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore jidanni
@ 2011-09-10 19:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-15 10:36 ` jidanni
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-09-10 19:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: ding
jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
> Gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore if I forget upon
> sending. Indeed, no reminder if there is no content either.
Via email? I don't think it's done that before? The checks are
usually just done for NNTP news, if I recall correctly.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-10 19:53 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-09-15 10:36 ` jidanni
2011-09-21 18:04 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: jidanni @ 2011-09-15 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
>> Gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore if I forget upon
>> sending. Indeed, no reminder if there is no content either.
LMI> Via email? I don't think it's done that before? The checks are
LMI> usually just done for NNTP news, if I recall correctly.
Well if it doesn't, maybe it should.
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-15 10:36 ` jidanni
@ 2011-09-21 18:04 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-21 18:18 ` jidanni
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-09-21 18:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: ding
jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
> LMI> Via email? I don't think it's done that before? The checks are
> LMI> usually just done for NNTP news, if I recall correctly.
>
> Well if it doesn't, maybe it should.
I don't think so. Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-21 18:18 ` jidanni
@ 2011-09-21 18:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-27 21:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-09-21 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: jidanni; +Cc: ding
jidanni@jidanni.org writes:
> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
Possibly. It would have to wait until after the feature freeze is over,
though.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
bloggy blog http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-21 18:04 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-09-21 18:18 ` jidanni
2011-09-21 18:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-09-27 21:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: jidanni @ 2011-09-21 18:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: larsi; +Cc: ding
>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> I don't think so. Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
One wouldn't want to appear unprofessional to a new potential date, so
this could be a lifesaver.
Pros could set a variable to turn it off, or just use echo I love you|mail sweethart
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-21 18:18 ` jidanni
2011-09-21 18:18 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-09-27 21:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-28 6:28 ` James Cloos
2011-09-28 8:17 ` Antoine Levitt
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-09-27 21:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:18:48 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
>>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> I don't think so. Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
j> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
I would allow "(NO SUBJECT)" as a third option instead of just y/n.
It's fairly standard.
A common approach is to make the subject "blah blah <EOM>" which means
there's no body. So if there's a single line in the body and no
subject, we could move it into the subject using this convention.
So, with a 1-line body:
are you sure you want to send without a subject? y/n/(m)ove body to subject/(N)o but make me sound intelligent with (NO SUBJECT)
and with a multi-line body:
are you sure you want to send without a subject? y/n/(N)o but make me sound intelligent with (NO SUBJECT)
j> One wouldn't want to appear unprofessional to a new potential date, so
j> this could be a lifesaver.
"All your dates are belong to Gnus"
Ted
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-27 21:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-09-28 6:28 ` James Cloos
2011-10-01 2:56 ` jidanni
2011-09-28 8:17 ` Antoine Levitt
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From: James Cloos @ 2011-09-28 6:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
FWIW, gnus master prompts me for a subject if I hit C-c C-c on a Message
buffer which has an empty Subject. I don't remember any other behaviour
from any version from gnus.org.
-JimC
--
James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-27 21:29 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-28 6:28 ` James Cloos
@ 2011-09-28 8:17 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-09-29 0:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
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From: Antoine Levitt @ 2011-09-28 8:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
27/09/11 23:29, Ted Zlatanov
> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:18:48 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
>
>>>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> LMI> I don't think so. Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
>
> j> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
>
> I would allow "(NO SUBJECT)" as a third option instead of just y/n.
> It's fairly standard.
Don't forget that many people write mail in languages other than
english. I'd prefer a blank subject rather than "(NO SUBJECT)" or
something like it anyway.
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-28 8:17 ` Antoine Levitt
@ 2011-09-29 0:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-09-29 7:34 ` Antoine Levitt
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From: Ted Zlatanov @ 2011-09-29 0:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:17:53 +0200 Antoine Levitt <antoine.levitt@gmail.com> wrote:
AL> 27/09/11 23:29, Ted Zlatanov
>> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:18:48 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
>>
>>>>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
LMI> I don't think so. Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
>>
j> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
>>
>> I would allow "(NO SUBJECT)" as a third option instead of just y/n.
>> It's fairly standard.
AL> Don't forget that many people write mail in languages other than
AL> english.
It's a given that the string would be customizable three ways. This is
Gnus, after all :)
AL> I'd prefer a blank subject rather than "(NO SUBJECT)" or something
AL> like it anyway.
Yup. The idea is to be flexible and helpful. So maybe one of the
options should be "no, and never mention this again."
Ted
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-29 0:27 ` Ted Zlatanov
@ 2011-09-29 7:34 ` Antoine Levitt
2011-09-29 18:40 ` Adam Sjøgren
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From: Antoine Levitt @ 2011-09-29 7:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
29/09/11 02:27, Ted Zlatanov
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:17:53 +0200 Antoine Levitt <antoine.levitt@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> AL> 27/09/11 23:29, Ted Zlatanov
>>> On Thu, 22 Sep 2011 02:18:48 +0800 jidanni@jidanni.org wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>>>> "LMI" == Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> LMI> I don't think so. Sending subject-less mails is a valid thing to do.
>>>
> j> But not most of the time. The perfect place for "are you sure? y/n".
>>>
>>> I would allow "(NO SUBJECT)" as a third option instead of just y/n.
>>> It's fairly standard.
>
> AL> Don't forget that many people write mail in languages other than
> AL> english.
>
> It's a given that the string would be customizable three ways. This is
> Gnus, after all :)
Yes, I meant to say that there's no real way for gnus to know whether
I'm writing in english or in french for a particular message. It's a
minor point.
Also, some SMTP servers (e.g. smtp.gmail.com) add a (no subject) by
themselves.
"are you sure? y/n" looks fine to me. Presumably, hitting C-c C-c with
no subject is either a mistake, in which case the user answers "n", gnus
jumps point to the Subject line, and the user edits it, or it's a
deliberate omission, in which case the user can answer "y". It's
bikeshedding anyway.
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-29 7:34 ` Antoine Levitt
@ 2011-09-29 18:40 ` Adam Sjøgren
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2011-09-29 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: ding
On Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:34:34 +0200, Antoine wrote:
> "are you sure? y/n" looks fine to me. Presumably, hitting C-c C-c with
> no subject is either a mistake, in which case the user answers "n", gnus
> jumps point to the Subject line, and the user edits it, or it's a
> deliberate omission, in which case the user can answer "y". It's
> bikeshedding anyway.
Yes, I agree, me too, AOL. +1. ++.
Best regards,
Adam
--
"Sunday morning when the rain begins to fall Adam Sjøgren
I've got the cure for it all" asjo@koldfront.dk
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* Re: gnus doesn't remind me to add a subject anymore
2011-09-28 6:28 ` James Cloos
@ 2011-10-01 2:56 ` jidanni
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From: jidanni @ 2011-10-01 2:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: cloos; +Cc: ding
>>>>> "JC" == James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> writes:
JC> FWIW, gnus master prompts me for a subject if I hit C-c C-c on a Message
JC> buffer which has an empty Subject. I don't remember any other behaviour
JC> from any version from gnus.org.
Hmmm, I now too get
"Empty header for Subject; enter value: "
so maybe it got fixed.
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