From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77327 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:29:36 -0800 Message-ID: <87wrkobutr.fsf@gnus.org> References: <87y655bnr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1298609651 27741 80.91.229.12 (25 Feb 2011 04:54:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 04:54:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Ding Mailing List To: 8050@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M25652@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Feb 25 05:54:04 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pspgn-00058R-Ru for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:54:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pspgc-0008NY-GI; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:53:50 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pspga-0008N3-HK for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:53:48 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PspgW-0003qm-G3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 22:53:48 -0600 Original-Received: from [109.144.247.156] (helo=vaio) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PspgV-0004A9-O6 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 25 Feb 2011 05:53:43 +0100 Original-Received: from larsi by vaio with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PspgN-0005g2-W3; Thu, 24 Feb 2011 20:53:36 -0800 In-Reply-To: <87y655bnr4.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Thu, 24 Feb 2011 06:50:07 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110014 (No Gnus v0.14) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Spam-Score: 1.9 (+) X-Spam-Report: SpamAssassin (3.3.1 2010-03-16) analysis follows Bayesian score: 0.0000 Ham tokens: 0.000-1529--4799h-0s--0d--H*UA:Emacs, 0.000-1416--4443h-0s--0d--H*u:Emacs, 0.000-1365--4282h-0s--0d--H*UA:Gnus, 0.000-1364--4281h-0s--0d--H*u:Gnus, 0.000-1314--4124h-0s--0d--H*u:linux Spam tokens: 0.951-2762--1092h-37050s--0d--H*r:quimby.gnus.org, 0.868-626--3239h-37153s--0d--HX-Spam-Relays-External:quimby.gnus.org, 0.868-626--3239h-37153s--0d--H*RU:quimby.gnus.org, 0.866-4984--29046h-327156s--0d--H*r:helo, 0.865-509--2982h-33556s--0d--H*Ad:D*gnus.org Autolearn status: no 0.0 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 FSL_HELO_NON_FQDN_1 3.0 RCVD_IN_PBL RBL: Received via a relay in Spamhaus PBL [109.144.247.156 listed in zen.spamhaus.org] -1.9 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] 0.8 RDNS_NONE Delivered to internal network by a host with no rDNS 0.0 HELO_NO_DOMAIN Relay reports its domain incorrectly List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77327 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > You may want to edit the line in case you want to change it before it's > written. Lars also thought this was not good but I feel strongly this > is useful functionality and it's not too intrusive. I think it's definitely too intrusive. The question that's relevant is "do you want to save the password?" That's the only thing a normal user could possibly be interested in, and it's a yes or no question. Asking the user to "e"-dit the netrc line would be for Gnus to prompt the user on `C-c C-c' "do you want to (s)end the message or (e)dit the MIME representation of the message before sending?" The latter is only interesting for people who are implementing the MIME encoding, and not any user. The same goes for the .netrc stuff. If you want to add a debugging mode to auth-source that allows you to edit the .netrc lines, that's fine, but it's not fine to confuse users on something as basic as password management. -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen