From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/70518 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steinar Bang Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: That newfangled IMAP thing... Date: Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:43:23 +0200 Organization: Probably a good idea Message-ID: <87wrr04878.fsf@dod.no> References: <87pqwslybb.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwxo5nqj.fsf@dod.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1283694228 517 80.91.229.12 (5 Sep 2010 13:43:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2010 13:43:48 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M18893@lists.math.uh.edu Sun Sep 05 15:43:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsFVY-0004do-A3 for ding-account@gmane.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:43:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OsFVS-0003BN-7O; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:43:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OsFVQ-0003B8-Uh for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:43:36 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1OsFVM-0000xF-LU for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 08:43:36 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1OsFVL-0000Fa-00 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:43:31 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OsFVK-0004Zl-Kc for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:43:30 +0200 Original-Received: from cm-84.208.200.46.getinternet.no ([84.208.200.46]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:43:30 +0200 Original-Received: from sb by cm-84.208.200.46.getinternet.no with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Sep 2010 15:43:30 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 42 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: cm-84.208.200.46.getinternet.no Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/22.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:saZ9tv6Ql5RJZp+vORMNcT1Wp2c= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:70518 Archived-At: >>>>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen : > Steinar Bang writes: >> There are other things to consider: IMAP allows you to pull down the >> header information, and even the IMAP structure of a message, and then >> move the messages _on_ the server, without downloading them, or >> downloading all of them. > Hm. Is this generally supported across different (popular) server > types, or does it vary a lot? I think it's mandated by the RFC...? Let me see... It lists a lot of message attributes, http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501#section-2.3 with body structure and one of them http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501#section-2.3.6 At a quick overview, none of the message attributes I looked at were listed at optional, so I guess you can pull them down and look at to use for splitting. Moves aren't actually implemented in IMAP. You have to do a COPY, and then set the delete flag, followed by an EXPUNGE of the original. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3501#section-6.4.7 The COPY command works on the server. You don't have to download a message for that. >> Dovecot is an easy IMAP server to deal with, and very robust (I wouldn't >> have called it an MTA though. Exim4 is my MTA, Dovecot is my IMAP >> server). > Er, yes. We currently just use it for pop3. Actually I haven't even enabled pop3 on mine. If someone just wants POP-like behaviour, IMAP is actually a lot nicer than POP3, and needs no extensions to do what modern POP3 clients would like to do (leave on server, delete specific messages, etc.).