From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/70322 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Frank Schmitt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Built-in HTML renderer in Emacs? Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:18:15 +0200 Organization: Hamme net, kren mer och nimmi Message-ID: <87wrr4havc.fsf@mid.gehheimdienst.de> References: <871v9dlgqp.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj7ljyxd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <874oe9jwv3.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87vd6pig2y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87occhfl77.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d3sxfkhc.fsf@lifelogs.com> <878w3lfjgd.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87d3sx8gkq.fsf@lifelogs.com> <871v9d8dj2.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87tym96wrz.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1283412031 18002 80.91.229.12 (2 Sep 2010 07:20:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 07:20:31 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M18708@lists.math.uh.edu Thu Sep 02 09:20:30 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Or461-0001CB-UR for ding-account@gmane.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:20:30 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Or45r-00067x-BR; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:20:19 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Or45p-00067c-4F for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:20:17 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Or45k-00029e-Qe for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 02:20:16 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1Or45k-0000et-00 for ; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:20:12 +0200 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Or45h-000117-Aq for ding@gnus.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:20:09 +0200 Original-Received: from zoidberg.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.69.172]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:20:09 +0200 Original-Received: from ich by zoidberg.uni-koblenz.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:20:09 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 30 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: zoidberg.uni-koblenz.de X-Face: :EL9TzGRN){7|oE2~xQ8Q(VjpjsXgX$~gi&rYD5J5p)$w\Thdl~v:7h`/n)J!8nXT%_+Wj6}@EHM8}QbA(9nX-wrQ:ch1%DauV[?kFasXUcnL#+"K8zOx&$@/M'/},q-eztaJra1|?C+p$h\2XnK-HB"8_U Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:70322 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 21:57:26 +0200 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > > LMI> Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> Katsumi Yamaoka and I had a similar discussion about safe URLs. I think >>> fighting spammers by filtering all images is a losing battle and >>> everyone will just set that to nil, but maybe the filter can at least >>> take the image size into account. > > LMI> I don't think spammers are the main problem -- it's a question of loss > LMI> of privacy. There are people selling tools that lets you know whether > LMI> somebody has read the email you sent them just by exploiting the > LMI> sloppiness of mail readers in this area. I don't think that's a good > LMI> idea to have enable by default. > > OK, s/spammers/evildoers and other miscreants/. I believe 99% of the > users will set this to nil or give up. We should at least try to give > this some nuance; a regex is not the best solution. I think the most common solution in other MUAs is to have a button which allows to load the images in the current mail. We could have [load images], [ ] load always for this group, [ ] never load for this group -- Have you ever considered how much text can fit in eighty columns? Given that a signature typically contains up to four lines of text, this space allows you to attach a tremendous amount of valuable information to your messages. Seize the opportunity and don't waste your signature on bullshit that nobody cares about.