From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/60014 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Making Emacs more newbie friendly Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:00:16 +0900 Message-ID: <87wts3wdun.fsf@tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp> References: <874qf8d3cy.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <01c52c71$Blat.v2.4$400dcce0@zahav.net.il> <423C385F.6080704@yahoo.de> <16956.18953.703708.287613@mail.eng.it> <873burih58.fsf@verizon.net> Reply-To: Miles Bader NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1111266624 24195 80.91.229.2 (19 Mar 2005 21:10:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M8555@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Mar 19 22:10:24 2005 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13] ident=mail) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DClDA-0000V8-Op for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:10:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DCl3e-0004hM-00; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:00:30 -0600 Original-Received: from util2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.23]) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 1DCl3X-0004hG-00 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:00:23 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.224.244]) by util2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1DCl3V-0004mL-Go for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 15:00:21 -0600 Original-Received: from smtp02.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.72]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1DCl3U-0005k9-00 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 22:00:20 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtp (Dentaku) id 1DCl3S-0000tb-Vd; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:00:19 +0900 Original-Received: from yokohama2-61-203-152-175.ap.0038.net ([61.203.152.175] helo=tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp) by smtp02.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1DCl3S-0000tX-B4; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:00:18 +0900 Original-Received: by tc-1-100.kawasaki.gol.ne.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 17F2C2F68; Sun, 20 Mar 2005 06:00:17 +0900 (JST) Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org System-Type: i686-pc-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (David Kastrup's message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 20:35:57 +0100") Original-Lines: 12 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS GOL X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-Spam-Score: -4.8 (----) Precedence: bulk Original-Sender: ding-owner@lists.math.uh.edu X-MailScanner-From: ding-owner+m8555@lists.math.uh.edu X-MailScanner-To: ding-account@gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60014 gmane.emacs.help:24995 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:60014 David Kastrup writes: > My GTK+ version of Emacs, in contrast, is rather nice. Even the > toolbar, while a waste of space, fits in nicely as long as you don't > use Gnus (in which case it turns into a retro-yuk nightmare). I'll bet if you asked Lars he'd put that on a Mug or something ... "Gnus: A retro-yuk nightmare" -Mmmiles -- My spirit felt washed. With blood. [Eli Shin, on "The Passion of the Christ"]