Expiry changes?

Expiry changes?

[Norman Walsh]

I must have missed a memo. I've been running oort for a while and
expiry has been working the way I expect (delete all my old read
mail). But I noticed the other day that it wasn't working. So I
upgraded from CVS yesterday. No change. So I read some archived mail
in ding (there was quite a bit as it hasn't been expiring :-) and
changed a few group parameters. No change. Hmmm.

My group parameters for ding look like this:

((timestamp 15670 38322)
 (to-list . "ding@gnus.org")
 (total-expire . t)
 (expiry-wait . 30)
 (expiry-target . delete))

If I enter the (nnml) group with C-u space, I see lots of old mail
(some more than six weeks old). Most of it marked 'O', but some of it
marked 'E' (from when I fiddled with auto-expire, I think). When I
leave the group, none of it gets deleted.

Obvious user error, probably. But not obvious to me, alas.

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

-- 
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> | The sudden disappointment of hope
http://nwalsh.com/            | leaves a scar which the ultimate
                              | fulfillment of that hope never entirely
                              | removes.--Thomas Hardy

Re: Expiry changes?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>:

> So I read some archived mail in ding (there was quite a bit as it
> hasn't been expiring :-)

A simple workaround for that particular mailing list, is to add
"news.gnus.org" as an nntp server in the server buffer, open it with
RET or SPACE, and press `u' on the gnus.ding newsgroup. 

Of course, this won't help you with other list, but you may be lucky
finding them on the NNTP server news.gmane.org.

If you don't find your lists there, you can subscribe then with this form:
	<http://gmane.org/subscribe.php>

Re: Expiry changes?

[Norman Walsh]

/ Steinar Bang <sb@dod.no> was heard to say:
| A simple workaround for that particular mailing list, is to add
| "news.gnus.org" as an nntp server in the server buffer, open it with
| RET or SPACE, and press `u' on the gnus.ding newsgroup. 

Uh, thanks. That's an option. But it won't help for any of the other
250 nnml: groups I've got. :-)

                                        Be seeing you,
                                          norm

-- 
Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com> | "Abstraction, abstraction and
http://nwalsh.com/            | abstraction." This is the answer to the
                              | question, "What are the three most
                              | important words in programming?"--Paul
                              | Hudak

Re: Expiry changes?

[Steinar Bang]

>>>>> Norman Walsh <ndw@nwalsh.com>:

> Uh, thanks. That's an option. But it won't help for any of the other
> 250 nnml: groups I've got. :-)

If some of them hold public mailing lists, news.gmane.org, which I
mentioned in the next paragraph, may be a solution for them.

For me, it saves me the work of creating a folder, subscribing, and
creating a filter for a mailing list.  And it saves me the work of
tearing everything down when I decide to no longer subscribe to the
list. 

Of course, for some lists, (eg. the DocBook lists ;-) ) I have to
subscribe to the list, and /dev/null the messages from the list, to be
allowed to post from gmane.  mailman lists allows me to subscribe, but
not receive any messages.