From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/40551 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Pittman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: any tips for how to tune Gnus/emacs for low memory usage? Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:38:04 +1100 Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87wv0c9yoj.fsf@inanna.rimspace.net> References: <87snb2tyku.fsf@bang.priv.no> <87pu65xkj0.fsf@bang.priv.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035176084 1532 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:54:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:54:44 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 14970 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2001 12:42:39 -0000 Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu (mail@129.7.128.13) by mastaler.com with SMTP; 27 Nov 2001 12:42:39 -0000 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 168hVc-0005NU-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:38:44 -0600 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:38:29 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA24624 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 06:38:18 -0600 (CST) Original-Received: (qmail 14908 invoked by alias); 27 Nov 2001 12:38:27 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 14903 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2001 12:38:27 -0000 Original-Received: from melancholia.rimspace.net (HELO melancholia.danann.net) (210.23.138.19) by gnus.org with SMTP; 27 Nov 2001 12:38:27 -0000 Original-Received: from localhost (melancholia.rimspace.net [210.23.138.19]) by melancholia.danann.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F13B42A813 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:38:09 +1100 (EST) Original-Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3CB2F820C2; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:38:05 +1100 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87pu65xkj0.fsf@bang.priv.no> (Steinar Bang's message of "Mon, 26 Nov 2001 22:57:39 +0100") Original-Lines: 61 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.5 (asparagus, i686-pc-linux) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40551 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:40551 On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Steinar Bang wrote: >>>>>> Stainless Steel Rat : > >> You have barely enough memory for the X server, and not nearly >> enough for X and Emacs. > > Running KDE or Gnome is out, but the X server itself isn't all that > much of a hog. And I'm using icewm as the WM, which uses only around > 800k. Quite. X, contrary to rumors, is rather light-weight. I happily ran it on my P-133 with 24MB of ram for an awful while. :) > No problem at all running X and emacs without swapping... until I've > used Gnus to visit one of the newsgroups that makes the emacs process > size ballon. > > The two big culprits, according to top, are emacs/Gnus (after visiting > one of the problem groups), and opera. The best I ever found for keeping the size of the Emacs process that was running stuff down was to keep Gnus distinct from my standard Emacs[1], to ensure that W3 was *not* available under Gnus, and to make sure I never kept ticked articles lying around for long. Oh, and I had fairly small groups at the time, though that doesn't seem to have made that much difference... > I'll try out galeon when it moves out of debian unstable, and into > testing. I doubt that you will be happy; this is a very light session: 3633 daniel 9 0 45040 41M 18224 S 0 0.0 14.5 2:59 galeon-bin 3638 daniel 9 0 45040 41M 18224 S 0 0.0 14.5 0:00 galeon-bin 3639 daniel 9 0 45040 41M 18224 S 0 0.0 14.5 0:04 galeon-bin 3640 daniel 9 0 45040 41M 18224 S 0 0.0 14.5 0:00 galeon-bin 4788 daniel 9 0 45040 41M 18224 S 0 0.0 14.5 0:00 galeon-bin 6786 daniel 9 0 45040 41M 18224 S 0 0.0 14.5 0:00 galeon-bin That's not exactly a light-weight browser, and it bloats relatively fast. > But I don't really have a replacement candidate for Gnus. I never met anything better. :0 > I'll also try out the 2.4-series to see if the VM is more efficient. It's a heavier footprint than 2.2 but 2.4.16-pre1 and close to that are fairly good. They swap sooner, feel decent interactively and don't have too many harsh edges. Daniel Footnotes: [1] I did this briefly, but stopped for the lack of integration. -- There is no female mind. The brain is not an organ of sex. As well to speak of a female liver. -- Charlette Perkins Gilman, _Women and Economics_