From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/32518 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Florian Weimer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: \201 irritation! :-) Date: 20 Sep 2000 18:56:22 +0200 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87wvg7roi1.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> References: <00Aug28.151432edt.115218@gateway.intersys.com> <00Aug28.173634edt.115213@gateway.intersys.com> <200009051429.PAA09826@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <200009082240.XAA16800@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> <87n1h86w6a.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <200009181407.PAA02748@djlvig.dl.ac.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035168792 20293 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:53:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Return-Path: Original-Received: from fisher.math.uh.edu (fisher.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.35]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A348AD051E for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:02:48 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by fisher.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAC28042; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:02:17 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:01:41 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@66-209.196.61.interliant.com [209.196.61.66] (may be forged)) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23301 for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 12:01:29 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mail.netic.de (mail.s.netic.de [212.9.160.11]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1320AD051E for ; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:01:52 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by mail.netic.de (Smail3.2.0.111/mail.s.netic.de) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services via remoteip 212.9.163.100 via remotehost mail.enyo.de with esmtp for mail.gnus.org id m13bnFm-001X52C; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 19:01:50 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (helo=deneb.enyo.de) by mail.enyo.de with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13bn8D-0006ae-00 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:54:01 +0200 Original-Received: from fw by deneb.enyo.de with local (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13bnAU-0002ot-00 for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 20 Sep 2000 18:56:22 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Dave Love's message of "Mon, 18 Sep 2000 15:07:53 +0100" Original-Lines: 28 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0808 (Gnus v5.8.8) Emacs/20.7 Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32518 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:32518 Dave Love writes: > FW> Unfortunately, UTF-8 is likely to contain some of the quoting > FW> characters used by GNU Emacs for in-band signalling of some > FW> MULE-related information > > I guess you mean you can get spurious byte-combination, as I think > ShengHuo was talking about. Byte-combination kills the quoted-printable encoder (or used to do it in the past, at least). > As far as I know, this shouldn't be a > problem simply decoding the external utf-8 coding system, but I don't > grok Mule-UCS and I don't know where the problem is occurring. Copying byte-combinations between unibyte and multibyte buffers results in some weird effects. Sometimes, Emacs is not 8-bit clean. :-( > Anyway, the `eight-bit-control' charset in Mule 5.0 should fix that > sort of thing in the future, as well as allowing better auto-detection > of utf-8. Does "encode-coding-region" produce characters in this encoding? BTW: Please do not abuse GRAVE ACCENT (U+0060) as quotation mark. Thanks.