From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/30578 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Daniel Pittman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Gnus and fetchmail Date: 1 May 2000 20:59:33 +1000 Organization: Not today, thank you, Mother. Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87wvlefsdm.fsf@inanna.danann.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035167094 9233 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 02:24:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 02:24:54 +0000 (UTC) Keywords: mail, need, fetchmail, mta, isp, gnus Return-Path: Original-Received: from lisa.math.uh.edu (lisa.math.uh.edu [129.7.128.49]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3733D051E for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 20:38:50 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu (lists@Sina.HPC.UH.EDU [129.7.3.5]) by lisa.math.uh.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAB00743; Mon, 1 May 2000 19:38:49 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 01 May 2000 19:38:12 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from mailhost.sclp.com (postfix@sclp3.sclp.com [204.252.123.139]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10930 for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 19:38:00 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from fw01.osa.com.au (fw01.osa.com.au [203.6.130.130]) by mailhost.sclp.com (Postfix) with SMTP id A4642D051E for ; Mon, 1 May 2000 20:36:47 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: (qmail 9044 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 2000 00:36:34 -0000 Original-Received: (ofmipd 172.16.33.89); 2 May 2000 00:36:12 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 6448 invoked by uid 0); 2 May 2000 00:36:34 -0000 Original-Received: from inanna.osa.com.au (HELO inanna.danann.net) (172.16.33.101) by excalibur.osa.com.au with SMTP; 2 May 2000 00:36:34 -0000 Original-Received: by inanna.danann.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F4092806E; Mon, 1 May 2000 20:59:34 +1000 (EST) Original-To: ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: Jonas Steverud's message of "01 May 2000 12:40:02 +0200" X-Homepage: http://danann.net/ X-spies: Ft. Bragg domestic disruption FSF Cocaine bomb ammunition CIA Legion of Doom radar PLO SDI Ron Brown NORAD cracking Honduras Original-Lines: 62 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) XEmacs/21.2 (Kastor & Polydeukes) Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30578 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:30578 On 01 May 2000, Jonas Steverud wrote: [...] > I am thinking of using fetchmail (and leafnode) to get mail from some > future ISP (I'm about to leaving my account here at Chalmers and will > likely get some commercial ISP later this summer) and getting it once > a day via crontab. I do this myself, from several scattered accounts. More often than once a day, admittedly, but it works wonderfully. > My question now is if fetchmail can deliver to some file which Gnus > then can read as inbox (and then do splitting) or if I need procmail > (in MDA mode) too. You need a mail daemon running on the local machine, providing SMTP delivery to a mailbox[1] for fetchmail to work. That's the way it's designed - it just acts as a go-between for a remote mail gathering point and the local MTA. > Any other ideas for the problem "getting (sending) mail and news from > (to) ISP X to (from) Gnus"? I would like to have two options: 1. Have > a script in crontab and 2. be able to do it on demand. Both are easy > to accomplish if I can be able to produce a script that gets the mail > into /var/spool/mail/$USER, uploads whatever mail I've sent, and do > the same thing for news. 'qmail' and 'serialmail'[2] worked well for me, but that was a while back. They both require building from source, pretty much, to be usable. Postfix is my current MTA, and works well. I have it configured to send mail directly, and if the host is not reachable, to try a fallback smarthost. This covers everything I need, but is not the most robust of solutions except for a semi-permanent connection like I have. > I really don't think this is hard to do but it is a white spot on the > map of my knowledge. The main question is: Do I need anything more > then gnus, fetchmail and leafnode? An MTA. qmail probably best suits your needs. There is a debian package for it, although I have not used it. Feel free to contact me directly if you want some more specific answers. Daniel Footnotes: [1] /var/spool/mail, ~/Mailbox, Maildir, &c. [2] I think that's the name of the second package. Check the qmail website for details.[3] [3] -- If you consistently take an antagonistic approach, however, people are going to start thinking you're from New York. :-) -- Larry Wall to Dan Bernstein in <10187@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV>