From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 18593 invoked from network); 7 Mar 2022 23:07:55 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Mar 2022 23:07:55 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nRMSG-00CRb9-Q1 for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2022 17:07:52 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nRMSG-005HUq-7z for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 07 Mar 2022 17:07:52 -0600 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nRMSF-005HUj-26 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 07 Mar 2022 17:07:51 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nRMSA-001E1Y-Mz for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 07 Mar 2022 17:07:50 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FzIiybnqeXf2PnNZrUikn9rwJKUVOBVgA4SQj5X3RMw=; b=Pk6tlgwpktTSVjqu+3cF1/UBAn BHgi2n1fQJGiVYpjj0V4FY0LJObZPklKSmLKQ3NdwksHDQsV9ZhCTdY8lSEyUYcGGrRYozhNw0O4+ QHVGLQWlKvY6k8yYd/mONeZf6asP/KJRF7aSPMIViPJzGAX7d/LPQ5jmVty4YTjz1Ts4=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nRMS2-0005Gj-Jg for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2022 00:07:41 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nRMS1-00009J-7N for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2022 00:07:37 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Andrew Cohen Subject: Re: nnvirtual groups and article warping Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2022 07:07:29 +0800 Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology Message-ID: <87y21ls6oe.fsf@ust.hk> References: <87czj3x9gh.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <8735jyygh2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87czj27hm4.fsf@ust.hk> <8735jv9rf3.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87bkyjw7ud.fsf@ust.hk> <87ee3d7p2k.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:w2PQKeX1yjbm45rp9uXdODFbpHI= List-ID: Precedence: bulk >>>>> "ESF" == Eric S Fraga writes: ESF> On Sunday, 6 Mar 2022 at 21:04, Andrew Cohen wrote: >> That is a bug (at least for nnselect). I use this constantly in >> nnselect and it works fine. We should try to track this down; if >> I had to guess it has something to do with the search engine you >> are using---I can't recall but think it is notmuch? ESF> Sorry, maybe I confused things: A W works just fine with ESF> notmuch searches and nnselect. I was commenting on the need ESF> for A W for nnvirtual groups to allow me to see a whole tread ESF> using A T (which doesn't work in an nnvirtual group); the ESF> question I was answering was what the use case for A W would be ESF> if marks etc. were all propagated back to the actual groups. Got it, thanks. So the use is to get the functionality of A T when using nnvirtual, but not anything else. Thats good, since I think I have solved the remaining issues with emulating nnvirtual with nnselect (in which case A T works correctly). In the end its all pretty trivial except for managing the combined group information (nnvirtual doesn't store any of it, while nnselect does---the information is pretty large because of the interleaving of groups and would cause the newsrc size to balloon if we didn't do something; this is the only change needed to nnselect to make it work). My push rights are in limbo over copyright confusion, but once that is settled I'll push it and get some testing. It should work as an exact drop-in replacement, but we will see if anything is missing. (And I still encourage the alternate paradigm I previously pushed for, which I think would work much better for you :)) Best, Andy -- Andrew Cohen