From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 6331 invoked from network); 22 Jan 2022 01:43:01 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 22 Jan 2022 01:43:01 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nB5Qg-00Goas-Vj for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 19:42:59 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nB5Qg-003LqD-EB for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 19:42:58 -0600 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nB5Qf-003Lq6-8p for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 19:42:57 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nB5Qc-00Goaa-B6 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 21 Jan 2022 19:42:56 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:From:To: Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=o70rzhjTQP3FUA1bwqZLAHTO6TQP8EszBsxA9eFYuzA=; b=XjLYcCzkgPT+yzmxRVbkCwViy/ SHPrIsfWHyM89VVsH29xGEXheSfaKlC5+CfP6ppQRPK/JtyxL1qRBlbCm6at20BKLBNgC3pov5U0k TX3RoImD7cpgTAuvTobrhUpqZa872Xlqg1hs5mOCUpSdS4vNSu0WRGdw/6blSdKD7RnY=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nB5QU-0000zp-LW for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 02:42:49 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nB5QT-0008sX-Ks for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 22 Jan 2022 02:42:45 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org To: ding@gnus.org From: Emanuel Berg Subject: collapse > into button but not | Date: Sat, 22 Jan 2022 02:42:37 +0100 Message-ID: <87y238r1f6.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:5Gm/Ukc2DwX0eW6nnNLJncFYjxU= Mail-Copies-To: never List-ID: Precedence: bulk tl;dr (search-forward "Question:") ^ eval me First an observation, now and then people use the closing angel-bracket (the GREATER-THAN SIGN) when they quote from websites and so one, this is technically/formally incorrect, it should only quote or indicate what has already been posted in the thread, so if you quote from a website or The Scientific Book of Funny Facts, that hasn't been in the thread so quotation marks, indentation, I actually don't know, but it shouldn't be used! One of the reasons are that some people, like YT, have it configured so the citation collapses into a button, often it isn't necessary, if one has read it once it isn't even needed for rehearsal or context - once is plenty enough in this context which is often a short time in span as well ... Anyway ... now for the actual question, I have noticed my configuration is not perfect as I _only_ want the angel-bracket (or nested pairs, troikas and so on) to be collapsed, BUT I've seen Emacs recently do the same with text formated like this: | Pulling myself up by a rope | I better my view | the only thing in sight is | what I must do I don't know what the VERTICAL LINEs are supposed to indicate, but note that faces are `gnus-cite-1' and `message-cited-text-4' so it's some ... well, what *is* the difference of quotation and citation? A citation is using a particular idea you get from another author. You don't need to use the exact words in this case. You can just write the summary or the idea of using your own language. ... Quotation, on the other hand, is the exact words of the other author that you will mention in your own writing. [1] Okay cool! Question: How can I configure Emacs so that it collapses GREATER-THAN SIGN blocks but leave VERTICAL LINE blocs? TIA (message-goto-body) ^ don't eval, you have to read it again! [1] https://sjpucsd.com/difference-between-citation-and-quotation/ -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal