* Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments @ 2020-08-15 10:12 Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-15 10:45 ` Adam Sjøgren 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-15 10:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding I often receive emails with gzip'ed/zip'ed attachments, like this: [1. application/zip; google.com!asjo.org!1597363200!1597449599.zip]... [2. application/tlsrpt+gzip; google.com!koldfront.dk!1597363200!1597449599!001.json.gz]... If I press RET on them, they are expanded (decompressed and content shown in the buffer), which is nice. What do I need to configure to have that done automatically, so I don't have to navigate to the attachment and press RET? I have been looking in mm-decode.el, but so far I haven't hit the right combination. Best regards, Adam -- "Thanks to enzymes, humans are solar-powered." Adam Sjøgren asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments 2020-08-15 10:12 Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-15 10:45 ` Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-15 10:51 ` Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-15 18:41 ` Wayne Harris 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-15 10:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Adam writes: > What do I need to configure to have that done automatically, so I don't > have to navigate to the attachment and press RET? The motivating factor of asking a question is incredible. This is what I found was needed: ; Show inline: (add-to-list 'mm-attachment-override-types "application/zip") (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "application/zip") (add-to-list 'mm-attachment-override-types "application/tlsrpt\\+gzip") (add-to-list 'mm-automatic-display "application/tlsrpt\\+gzip") (add-to-list 'mm-inline-media-tests '("application/tlsrpt\\+gzip" mm-inline-text identity)) (add-to-list 'mm-inlined-types "application/tlsrpt\\+gzip") Best regards, Adam -- "Now cupid don't draw back your bow Adam Sjøgren Sam Cooke didn't know what I know" asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments 2020-08-15 10:45 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-15 10:51 ` Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-15 18:41 ` Wayne Harris 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-15 10:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding To keep the "buttons" being displayed, also add: (add-to-list 'gnus-buttonized-mime-types "application/zip") (add-to-list 'gnus-buttonized-mime-types "application/tlsrpt\\+gzip") :-), Adam -- "Nobody: I prefer to be called Nobody." Adam Sjøgren asjo@koldfront.dk ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments 2020-08-15 10:45 ` Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-15 10:51 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-15 18:41 ` Wayne Harris 2020-08-15 20:40 ` Adam Sjøgren 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Wayne Harris @ 2020-08-15 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes: > Adam writes: > >> What do I need to configure to have that done automatically, so I don't >> have to navigate to the attachment and press RET? > > The motivating factor of asking a question is incredible. Yes, that's very interesting. I hypothesize that the words should not be ``motivating factor'', but rather a ``consequence'' of asking a question. That is, I'd have written ``the consequence of asking a question is /almost/ incredible''. I don't even think it really must be asked to the public. By just putting precisely the question down to yourself seems to _essentially_ do the same job. Of course, without the public's scrutiny, you're relevantly limited and denied the joy and profit of exchange. The consequence is that it organizes your thoughts in an academic way. I mean, it well-organizes your thoughts. You want the answer and you want it quick, so you present the problem in a very clear, trivial way, as it should always be presented. First you prove there is a problem, thereby implicitly challenging everyone to solve it, even with a theoretical solution, so you craft the problem to allow a meaningful but perhaps not useful solution. That in itself is already a design of the solution, so while everyone reads your work, you try your hand at the most trivial solution possible. Perhaps then you improve it and this way, by and by, you might understand all the engineering required to get a real-world solution to the problem. That is all a consequence of presenting a problem in a well-organized way. This is why so many interesting scientists have praised the importance of asking a good question. Asking a good question demands understanding; intellectual understanding seems to be a form of well-organization. Asking a good question requires sincerity and even courage to admit your inability to answer it; such properties in themselves check the entire educational system all over the world. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments 2020-08-15 18:41 ` Wayne Harris @ 2020-08-15 20:40 ` Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-19 1:50 ` Wayne Harris 2020-08-25 9:30 ` Eric S Fraga 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-15 20:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Wayne writes: > I don't even think it really must be asked to the public. By just > putting precisely the question down to yourself seems to _essentially_ > do the same job. Of course, without the public's scrutiny, you're > relevantly limited and denied the joy and profit of exchange. For some reason I don't look into solving niggles with Gnus until after I have actual sent off the question. Before I send it, I feel like, hmm, I should ask about this, because it's too tedious for me to figure out, and if somebody has the answer already, I'd love to have it. Then I send the question, and it triggers an "aww, let me just take a quick look, how hard can it be, it's Emacs, for crying out loud"-reaction. In other circumstances it's enough for me to put the question into words, sometimes even to nobody; the famous "rubber ducking". But for Gnus, and also for jabber.el, come to think of it, I almost always send the question before solving it. In the case of jabber.el sometimes spending days on it. I am not sure why. I do feel a little like a crazy person posting monologues, sometimes. > Asking a good question requires sincerity and even courage to admit > your inability to answer it; I think that is an interesting point. That's one of the things I look for in student helpers at work, do they tell me when there is stuff they don't know (I avoided the word "admit" here, because it implies not knowing is embarrasing, which it shouldn't be in that situation), and do they ask questions that clear things up for them. Best regards, Adam -- "You can't write a chord ugly enough to say what you Adam Sjøgren want sometimes, so you have to rely on a giraffe asjo@koldfront.dk filled with whipped cream." ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments 2020-08-15 20:40 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-19 1:50 ` Wayne Harris 2020-08-19 20:02 ` Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-20 2:21 ` Rafi Khan 2020-08-25 9:30 ` Eric S Fraga 1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Wayne Harris @ 2020-08-19 1:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes: > Wayne writes: > >> I don't even think it really must be asked to the public. By just >> putting precisely the question down to yourself seems to _essentially_ >> do the same job. Of course, without the public's scrutiny, you're >> relevantly limited and denied the joy and profit of exchange. > > For some reason I don't look into solving niggles with Gnus until after > I have actual sent off the question. > > Before I send it, I feel like, hmm, I should ask about this, because > it's too tedious for me to figure out, and if somebody has the answer > already, I'd love to have it. > > Then I send the question, and it triggers an "aww, let me just take a > quick look, how hard can it be, it's Emacs, for crying out loud"-reaction. > > In other circumstances it's enough for me to put the question into > words, sometimes even to nobody; the famous "rubber ducking". > > But for Gnus, and also for jabber.el, come to think of it, I almost > always send the question before solving it. In the case of jabber.el > sometimes spending days on it. > > I am not sure why. > > I do feel a little like a crazy person posting monologues, sometimes. One hypothesis to explain your behavior is a bit of intellectual narcisism and perhaps a bit of competition. After you send the message, you might begin to wonder --- is the question well put? Is there any obvious solution? ``Omg, I forgot to check this other thing. Let me do that and make sure it doesn't solve the problem, otherwise I *failed* to verify basic things.'' Does that happen? For example, does it please you if the question turns out to be hard? I suppose asking whether it turns to be interesting would be surely something everyone would like, I guess. But I think that also qualifies as a bit of intellectualism. At the same time, I think it's a great joy to just exchange and talk. You know, people get a ball and start throwing it back and forth. That's life, fun, joy! It would actually suck if people sort of demand that your questions must always be so well put. That makes you do a lot of verifications and so it becomes tedious. I prefer to do things in the following way. I asked a silly question and someone easily spotted. I ask: how did you do that so quickly?! :-) >> Asking a good question requires sincerity and even courage to admit >> your inability to answer it; > > I think that is an interesting point. > > That's one of the things I look for in student helpers at work, do they > tell me when there is stuff they don't know (I avoided the word "admit" > here, because it implies not knowing is embarrasing, which it shouldn't > be in that situation), and do they ask questions that clear things up > for them. Yes, good catch. I didn't want to imply that it is embarrassing. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments 2020-08-19 1:50 ` Wayne Harris @ 2020-08-19 20:02 ` Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-20 2:21 ` Rafi Khan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-19 20:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding Wayne writes: > One hypothesis to explain your behavior is a bit of intellectual > narcisism and perhaps a bit of competition. Sounds likely. It's always an ego boost to answer questions, even if they are your own. > For example, does it please you if the question turns out to be hard? Nope, I want easy solutions, that's why I use Emacs. It seems we have veered off topic, though. Best regards, Adam -- "People are crazy and times are strange Adam Sjøgren I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range asjo@koldfront.dk I used to care but - things have changed" ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments 2020-08-19 1:50 ` Wayne Harris 2020-08-19 20:02 ` Adam Sjøgren @ 2020-08-20 2:21 ` Rafi Khan 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Rafi Khan @ 2020-08-20 2:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Wayne Harris; +Cc: ding Hi, Wayne Harris <wharris1@protonmail.com> writes: > Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes: > At the same time, I think it's a great joy to just exchange and talk. > You know, people get a ball and start throwing it back and forth. > That's life, fun, joy! > > It would actually suck if people sort of demand that your questions must > always be so well put. That makes you do a lot of verifications and so > it becomes tedious. I prefer to do things in the following way. I > asked a silly question and someone easily spotted. I ask: how did you > do that so quickly?! :-) I also really appreciate the community aspect of questions/discourse! Great to seem I'm not alone haha. Rafi ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically displaying content of [some] attachments 2020-08-15 20:40 ` Adam Sjøgren 2020-08-19 1:50 ` Wayne Harris @ 2020-08-25 9:30 ` Eric S Fraga 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Eric S Fraga @ 2020-08-25 9:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ding On Saturday, 15 Aug 2020 at 22:40, Adam Sjøgren wrote: > Then I send the question, and it triggers an "aww, let me just take a > quick look, how hard can it be, it's Emacs, for crying out loud"-reaction. This is a summary of my experience practically every time I've posted a question on either gnus or emacs groups... You would think I would have learned by now but it still happens to me all the time. On the other hand, I can rationalise that having posted the question and the answer will help others in the future. ;-) -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 28.0.50 & org 9.3.7 on Debian bullseye/sid ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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