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This is evening time. >>> While reading the Gnus history at Internet, >>> i have some question. What does "Ma" mean, >>> from "Ma Gnus"? Also is that Japanese word >>> or English word or Norwegian word? My head >>> is swimming with this question. Still there >>> is no answer in my dictionary, in my >>> google search. >> >> At wikitionary, i saw Magnus' meaning, it is >> "Great". So "Ma Gnus" is "The Great >> Gnus!"?!?! >> >> Wonderful world!!! > > Magnus is "great" (or "big") as well as a very > common name. I always thought of it as > Scandinavian in origin as it is very common > here, but even as I kid I read the Transformers > comic, and there is an "Ultra Magnus" character > there so perhaps it is international as > well (or "by now"). > > But, "Ma Gnus" may be an unintentional pun as > the "Ma" is actually the Unicode 0x771F char, > which is the Han char for "real, actual, true, > genuine" and the Japanese "Ma" (or "MAKOTO > MAKOTONI MA", whatever that means). [1] >=20=20=20=20=20 > How it works in terms of technology is > described here [2] > > Development is done using "named versions", > whose first letters run backwards in the > alphabet; "No Gnus" v0.19 was released in > early 2012, and development transitioned to > "Ma Gnus". No named version ever reaches > 1.0, instead when it is considered stable > enough for general release, it sheds its > name and gets packaged with as simply "Gnus > ". > > Here is a chart of the Japanese alphabet > > http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eHJ73pG03uE/T0D2xd0Q1iI/AAAAAAAAAkM/9zU_SPc= Ue0U/s1600/Katakana_image.jpg > > So now it should be a quick fix to figure out > what the next version name should be :) > > [1] http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/771f/index.htm > > [2] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/gnus/Ma-Gnus.html > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gnus So the Japanese Kanji "=E7=9C=9F"'s pronounce is [ma]?!!! Now i got it what= "Ma Gnus" is. It seems Lars is literary man with genius. Then, In my definition, "Ma Gnus" is "The Great Gnus with True Heart", i like this value for "Ma Gnus".=20 Thanks for hints, Emanuel^^ --=20 ^=EA=B3=A0=EB=A7=99=EC=8A=B5=EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4 =EA=B0=90=EC=82=AC=ED=95=A9= =EB=8B=88=EB=8B=A4_^))//