From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/83845 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Freeze up on general news scan (g) Date: Mon, 04 Nov 2013 11:47:40 -0500 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y554qfkj.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> References: <87mxda84nc.fsf@newsguy.com> <871u3y1e0a.fsf@newsguy.com> <87r4bxrj3z.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87iow9u41z.fsf@flea.lifelogs.com> <874n7sc3ov.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Reply-To: ding@gnus.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383583687 19060 80.91.229.3 (4 Nov 2013 16:48:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2013 16:48:07 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M32101@lists.math.uh.edu Mon Nov 04 17:48:10 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNJs-0005Xk-2t for ding-account@gmane.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:48:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNJK-0003FS-NS; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:47:30 -0600 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNJJ-0003FK-GY for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:47:29 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNJH-00014g-Oc for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:47:28 -0600 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNJF-0004se-MM for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:47:25 +0100 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VdNJA-00044w-8r for ding@gnus.org; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:47:20 +0100 Original-Received: from c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net ([98.229.61.72]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:47:20 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Nov 2013 17:47:20 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-98-229-61-72.hsd1.ma.comcast.net X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130008 (Ma Gnus v0.8) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:is+xtDOdbcd+zkwwekMsUVEKLho= X-Spam-Score: -1.9 (-) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83845 Archived-At: On Mon, 04 Nov 2013 10:15:44 +0800 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: EA> Ted Zlatanov writes: >> On Mon, 07 Oct 2013 08:59:44 +0800 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> EA> A "me too" might not be that helpful, but... me too. Any time I resume EA> the computer or re-connect to a network I'm in the habit of opening a EA> single nntp group, to prod the connection into life, then hitting 'g'. >> >> Lars asked about this on the emacs-devel mailing list with no good >> solution. We just don't know if the remote is down. I think it >> requires some reworking of the Emacs process code to make detection of >> hung or stale connections easier, and to build keepalives into the base >> level. But I don't think Lars ever set a course of action. >> >> Until we have some resolution, use the following sequence (it can >> probably be written in Lisp but I haven't bothered): >> >> `^' = Server buffer >> `M-c' = close all server >> `q' = leave the Server buffer >> >> Now `g' will open new connections for all servers. >> >> Ted EA> Thanks for this, at least it's good to know the state of affairs. It EA> looks an elisp version of that sequence would be very simple: just call EA> `gnus-server-close-all-servers', and then `gnus'. It would be nice to add that to `gnus' as a user option (maybe a boolean `gnus-always-reopen-connections'). I worry, however, that adding it implicitly says we don't plan to solve the problem. Ted