From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/79963 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general,gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta Subject: Re: [Bug: 21.5-b29] gnus can't send in 21.5.29 but in 21.4.22 Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:20:57 +0200 Message-ID: <87y5xiqs2u.fsf@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de> References: <877h53i7um.fsf@gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es> <87ty86bqwj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1316589758 30002 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2011 07:22:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 07:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: XEmacs Beta , ding@gnus.org To: Uwe Brauer Original-X-From: ding-owner+M28257@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Sep 21 09:22:31 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R6H8W-0006kD-L9 for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:22:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R6H7S-00061R-6C; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:21:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1R6H7O-00061I-1z for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:21:18 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1R6H7B-0007Dd-Vf for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 02:21:17 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.uni-ulm.de ([134.60.1.11]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1R6H78-0001iq-VV for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:21:03 +0200 Original-Received: from bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de [134.60.10.175]) by mail.uni-ulm.de (8.14.3/8.14.2) with ESMTP id p8L7L0np013869; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:21:01 +0200 (MEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D64910BE4; Wed, 21 Sep 2011 09:21:00 +0200 (CEST) X-Face: 'bg&jY[8V'W&:=~6w"|>}#4/T;w~36ei4NNMyKRR.a$n=$|sWFPF1y]a\>6kc\*#GN]UDM| Ywv,vbL^XF1nIp\:F=$Ei2o&mEe:%N~,:3]vtQ~s9u$9izmX$IF@VgGl7/,^dbuM<3|AO2}.%|%?kZ 2Y=@\U!~cll^=8Z9ihKq%wmUe1Ky(#kl3T'>Qk0Ia3mCBsTk?E(,X Mail-Followup-To: Uwe Brauer , XEmacs Beta , ding@gnus.org In-Reply-To: <87ty86bqwj.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (Stephen J. Turnbull's message of "Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:55:24 +0900") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-DCC-x.dcc-servers-Metrics: poseidon 104; Body=3 Fuz1=3 Fuz2=3 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:79963 gmane.emacs.xemacs.beta:35567 Archived-At: On Wed, Sep 21 2011, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Uwe Brauer writes: > > > This is bizzare: I have install a no-gnus version which I > > use either with 21.4.22 Or 21.5.29. > > > > I wanted to send a message with 2 PDF attachments. It worked > > fine in 21.4.22 but in 21.5.29 I obtained an error which I > > attach. Since it works in 21.4.22 I hesitate to send a bug > > report to the gnus list. > > Unfortunately, this isn't bizarre at all. Both XEmacs 21.5 and Gnus > use private space character sets internally for various purposes, and > you contribute to that by using X-symbol, most likely. There are only > about 10 of them so it's a scarce resource. > > Please show us the output of M-x list-character-sets so we can see > where the resource drain is coming from. > > Aidan may be able to help you with XEmacs's use since he implemented > the JIT Unicode charset stuff, but IIRC he hard-coded it so there's > probably nothing you can do by customizing a variable---it will need > code changes. It's more likely that a workaround can be found in Gnus > IMO, but since XEmacs is more a platform than an application, IMHO it > should be reserving private charsets for applications written in Emacs > Lisp. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Gnus folks take the position > that this is an XEmacs 21.5 limitation, and put low priority on > addressing it. This problem came up before: . There you may find a possible solution[1] or a workaround[2] there. I don't know why[1] hasn't been implemented. ,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68154/focus=68185 ] | Gnus should bind `coding-system-for-read' then to the value of | `mm-binary-coding-system' that defaults to `binary'. However, | it seems to have been set to nil or `undecided': `---- ,----[ http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/68154/focus=68189 ] | Cool, thanks!, this definitely helped me track down a work-around. | I don't know what is actually causing the problem (It seems unique | to me), but by adding the .pdf extension to the | file-coding-system-alist for binary, it will successfully send files | that were previously failing. `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/