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From: asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren)
To: ding@gnus.org
Subject: Re: shr - span elements with title attribute, tooltip?
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:15:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y63xhbmr.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3wrjhzr33.fsf@quimbies.gnus.org>

On Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:04:00 +0200, Lars wrote:

>> As I keep saying, tooltips require a mouse while Emacs runs just fine
>> without a mouse or graphics.  So let's just provide a way to toggle
>> titles in the shr buffer, it's a tiny amount of work.  I'll do it if you
>> don't feel like it--it will be off by default in any case.

> Well, so far we don't have any titles (other than on images, and TAB-ing
> to them will show the titles)...

> I'm not sure "title" on non-image elements is relevant to shr.  Just
> like shr doesn't implement <form>, title on non-image elements may be
> outside its domain.

I think of title-attributes and tooltips as "extra bonus information for
those who are really curious". So in my mind the xkcd case, where the
tooltip is part of the real content, is an outlier - usually tooltips
are not really important, so I don't think it is crucial to support the
no-mouse situation for them.

The case that made me try and implement this was a quotation with
certain parts elided, using "[...]" and a tooltip on the dots containing
the elided text - so you can get the "hidden" text by just putting your
mouse where the missing text-"symbol" is shown, rather than having to
follow the link to the original.

I don't think that is a very common case, but since I wrote the text in
question¹, I thought it was very, very important to have it work in shr
as well as in Firefox.


  Best regards,

    Adam


¹ http://kammeratadam.dk/arkiv/2011/03/27/no_fly_zone

-- 
 "Soon we'll have spent a whole month at sea,                 Adam Sjøgren
  splitting atoms for no apparent reason"                asjo@koldfront.dk




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-29 21:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-27  7:54 Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-27  8:32 ` [PATCH] Show title attribute of span elements as mouse over text Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 18:58 ` shr - span elements with title attribute, tooltip? Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-28 19:17   ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 19:33     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-28 19:59       ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 20:14         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-28 20:34           ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 21:02             ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-28 21:07             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 17:52   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 18:07     ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 18:23       ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 18:46         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 19:04           ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:16             ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 19:35               ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 19:50                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-29 20:15                   ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 21:31                     ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-30  6:05                       ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-30 13:13                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-30 13:39                         ` Richard Riley
2011-03-30 19:02                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-04-03 12:10                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-03-29 21:15             ` Adam Sjøgren [this message]
2011-03-29 21:09     ` Adam Sjøgren
2011-03-30  0:58     ` Kevin Ryde

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