From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77993 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glyn Millington Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: New messages marked O before seeing them Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:20:49 +0000 Organization: Utterly lacking Message-ID: <87y64c9z8e.fsf@nowhere.org> References: <87ei69praf.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <87vczkcld3.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <871v27zoqh.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <87pqppb0f3.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> <877hbwc1ls.fsf@nowhere.org> <8762rg77x9.fsf@myles.home.wjsullivan.net> Reply-To: wistanswick@linuxmail.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300466048 12743 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2011 16:34:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 16:34:08 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26307@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Mar 18 17:34:03 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0cck-0005iO-NG for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:34:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0ccN-0002sW-G2; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:33:39 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0ccL-0002sC-9K for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:33:37 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0ccH-00062F-CZ for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 11:33:37 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0ccG-0000lz-1F for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:33:32 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0ccE-0005NU-36 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:33:30 +0100 Original-Received: from 82.152.120.109 ([82.152.120.109]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:33:30 +0100 Original-Received: from wistanswick by 82.152.120.109 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:33:30 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 46 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.152.120.109 X-Liturgical-Date: Commemoration: Saint Cyril of Jerusalem, bishop and doctor of the Church, A.D. 2011 User-Agent: Gnus/5.110015 (No Gnus v0.15) Emacs/23.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:aI6BaF2l3lWrVas67Gb50aLDEW4= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77993 Archived-At: John Sullivan writes: > Glyn Millington writes: > >> John Sullivan writes: >> >>> Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >>> >>>> John Sullivan writes: >>>> >>>>> Not a for-sure recipe :/ Try sending yourself a few dozen >>>>> messages with the folder open for an hour or so. During that >>>>> time, delete a few messages, move a few messages to another >>>>> group, read a few messages. Then / N. That's closer to the >>>>> conditions under which I see it. >>>> Could you try to provoke the bug with a simpler recipe? :-) >>>> >>> Yeah, I'm trying, but I can't seem to make it happen, even though >>> it happened to 10 or so messages just today in the normal course of >>> reading and answering my mail. I'm baffled that other people aren't >>> seeing this, because I don't think I'm doing anything weird. The >>> only thing I do that's maybe unusual for gnus users is actually >>> delete a fair amount of mail. >> I'm seeing it too and have been for some time. I believe it started >> when I upgraded to Emacs 23. Changing to No Gnus 13 improved it but >> did not eradicate it completely. > > Okay, good to not be alone :). > > Can you describe anything else about the conditions under which you > see it? Do you also do a lot of moving messages between groups and/or > deleting messages? What IMAP server? Not IMAP here but pop and nnml I do delete a lot of messages, but don't shift them around between groups much. And it only happens with mail - not with news. What is more it is not consistent in any way that is obvious to me. Sorry to be rather vague! atb Glyn