From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/77792 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jidanni@jidanni.org Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: plain old draft saving Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 04:25:13 +0800 Message-ID: <87y64gp1w6.fsf@jidanni.org> References: <87zkow4ew5.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300220738 17427 80.91.229.12 (15 Mar 2011 20:25:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:25:38 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M26112@lists.math.uh.edu Tue Mar 15 21:25:34 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzao6-0003Lo-KW for ding-account@gmane.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:25:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzanz-00008n-Rb; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:25:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzany-00008V-Bi for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:25:22 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzanx-0000iU-9W for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 15:25:22 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.spunky.mail.dreamhost.com ([208.97.132.47] helo=homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Pzanw-0007fc-A6 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 21:25:20 +0100 Original-Received: from homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE8E634079 for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:25:16 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to:subject :references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; q=dns; s= jidanni.org; b=XPLSe4ak9XpJCjzzouLPWqm/SBFMlHXGDaGrqMd+4l1SKvw11 U1uzG+XzKk895UnIEL6XbCiBXAPuF6cJrY+Tb/A4GckV3oXKLghm5WQwCTJsgO1F fh19uxE1OE6oA0R1Lt4sZbotusb9Dxgdg92NMu5rYPcy90PIpft1Wopp+8= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed; d=jidanni.org; h=from:to :subject:references:date:message-id:mime-version:content-type; s=jidanni.org; bh=nUrvgiCV4Fy7DlsZiTPz94zrqoY=; b=jpv3xMSss3khG VzsDZiREccw3GFa4FtfQlvO9iueJpvkGG3s8ssECpyClrKX3hjbYYkVUMwrUns69 njU/HVygFc1TiPvhLFG1gy4/FTcpzMZCV5sNRrRDRmmh3q5uYOvtGT1ARMx3o3TV GIJMsjurFyJ8nGcv7wXINUtfShGGJE= Original-Received: from jidanni.org (218-163-0-88.dynamic.hinet.net [218.163.0.88]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jidanni@jidanni.org) by homiemail-a62.g.dreamhost.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 0ECCF63406C for ; Tue, 15 Mar 2011 13:25:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Spam-Score: -2.0 (--) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:77792 Archived-At: OK I will now do C-x C-s in confidence. >>>>> "TZ" == Ted Zlatanov writes: >>> An unsent message does not need to be saved explicitly. Does too if you don't want some unknown state on the disks in the case there's a nuclear power outage, etc. TZ> he wants the documentation clarified. Yes please do fix them. TZ> Also his comment of "what [if] you just want to save it" is directly TZ> answered by my comment. You don't "just" want to save a message. You TZ> either save it as a draft with `C-c C-d' or you send it with `C-c C-c'. TZ> Mentioning `C-x C-s' would IMO just confuse the user and serve no TZ> practical purpose because the unsent message is already autosaved as a TZ> draft. But not at every moment. Back in high school we learned "use ^S to save your file often" back in MSDOS or something. Can you believe that gnus lacks documentation on how to do that (without side effects). I mean I want to go to the washroom. I would like to save my work first, without leaving it up to the component that makes the #files#.