From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/75022 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ted Zlatanov Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Streamlining first-time Gnus usage Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:50:32 -0600 Organization: =?utf-8?B?0KLQtdC+0LTQvtGAINCX0LvQsNGC0LDQvdC+0LI=?= @ Cienfuegos Message-ID: <87y67rxcfr.fsf@lifelogs.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1292428521 18412 80.91.229.12 (15 Dec 2010 15:55:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 15:55:21 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M23378@lists.math.uh.edu Wed Dec 15 16:55:16 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PSthD-0005mJ-SN for ding-account@gmane.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:55:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSth9-0002Om-Lf; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:55:11 -0600 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PSth8-0002OU-A3 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:55:10 -0600 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSth4-0003bc-Bb for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 09:55:10 -0600 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1PSth3-0002pw-KX for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:55:05 +0100 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PSth2-0005ft-2A for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:55:04 +0100 Original-Received: from 38.98.147.130 ([38.98.147.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:55:04 +0100 Original-Received: from tzz by 38.98.147.130 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 15 Dec 2010 16:55:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 38.98.147.130 X-Face: bd.DQ~'29fIs`T_%O%C\g%6jW)yi[zuz6;d4V0`@y-~$#3P_Ng{@m+e4o<4P'#(_GJQ%TT= D}[Ep*b!\e,fBZ'j_+#"Ps?s2!4H2-Y"sx" User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cojutj3AXYDSTdvOhrVcp0yLGQo= X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:75022 Archived-At: On Mon, 13 Dec 2010 17:29:55 +0100 Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: LMI> Julien Danjou writes: >> I don't think assistants is a good solution. That would just hide a >> complexity. But things should not be complex. LMI> They shouldn't, but sometimes they are... That is, it's more pleasant LMI> for the user if we query the user instead of making a wrong guess, in LMI> general. Assistants are good when you have a tree structure of preference sheets and each one can have many option fields. For example, setting up the list of servers is a classic Assistant need, while asking a y/n question is not. Obviously I say this, having avoided working on the Assistants for 5+ years now. But I have excuses! Ted