From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/67455 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: Bug#499774: starttls is a joke Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:19:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87y71fjb90.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <871vzca7gp.fsf@natisbad.org> <87y71kpmq7.fsf@bubble.risko.hu> <87ljxi3oty.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87tzc61abc.fsf@news.realpath.org> Reply-To: Uwe Brauer NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1222435233 9323 80.91.229.12 (26 Sep 2008 13:20:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:20:33 +0000 (UTC) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+M15905@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Sep 26 15:21:27 2008 connect(): Connection refused Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from util0.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.18]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KjDGA-0000nx-JL for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:21:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by util0.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KjDEH-0008W1-QR; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:19:29 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by util0.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KjDEG-0008Vf-CK for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:19:28 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KjDED-0006O0-4J for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 08:19:28 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1KjDEG-00034o-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 15:19:28 +0200 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KjDE6-0005Db-W6 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:19:19 +0000 Original-Received: from maportatil10.quim.ucm.es ([147.96.7.218]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:19:18 +0000 Original-Received: from oub by maportatil10.quim.ucm.es with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 13:19:18 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: maportatil10.quim.ucm.es X-Hashcash: 1:20:080926:gmane.emacs.gnus.general::z/7mmyXnnt9DJyed:00000000000000000000000000000000000000EPj User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) XEmacs/21.4.19 (linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:hvjL5D5qnYdeEMMNd3zHMwEZ/d8= X-Spam-Score: -3.6 (---) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:67455 Archived-At: >>>>> "Sebastian" == Sebastian Krause writes: > Uwe Brauer wrote: >> I just want to support the attitude of *not* removing this >> packages. For me this is the only possibility of sending mail >> (using gmail smtp server) when I am not at work. Yes it might be >> broken, but right now I don't know of _any_ alternatives. > I send my Gnus mail through smtp.gmail.com using msmtp > (http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/), it simply can't be easier. Other > alternatives like esmtp exist. I see no need for something like > starttls on my system. That is very interesting I have vaguely heard about it. Could you send me please your config? The other thing however is jabber (for gmail chat). It seems to be that it is using tls. (setq jabber-connection-type (quote ssl)) I don't know any other way. Uwe Brauer