From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/47048 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: jam@jamux.com (John A. Martin) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: pgg doesn't seem to like me Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 22:11:47 -0400 Sender: owner-ding@hpc.uh.edu Message-ID: <87y999he70.fsf@athene.jamux.com> References: <20021001172713.05F1E3B8CE@athene.jamux.com> <87d6quugw5.fsf@athene.jamux.com> <87adly6kck.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <874rc5vs16.fsf@athene.jamux.com> <874rc57u6e.fsf@mail.paradoxical.net> <873croy9g1.fsf@athene.jamux.com> <87elb5qyrx.fsf@athene.jamux.com> <87adlskjh3.fsf@athene.jamux.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1034043329 32158 127.0.0.1 (8 Oct 2002 02:15:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 02:15:29 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from malifon.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17yju8-0008MO-00 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 04:15:24 +0200 Original-Received: from sina.hpc.uh.edu ([129.7.128.10] ident=lists) by malifon.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 17yjqy-0007yh-00; Mon, 07 Oct 2002 21:12:08 -0500 Original-Received: by sina.hpc.uh.edu (TLB v0.09a (1.20 tibbs 1996/10/09 22:03:07)); Mon, 07 Oct 2002 21:12:50 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from sclp3.sclp.com (qmailr@sclp3.sclp.com [209.196.61.66]) by sina.hpc.uh.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA13232 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 21:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: (qmail 27237 invoked by alias); 8 Oct 2002 02:11:48 -0000 Original-Received: (qmail 27232 invoked from network); 8 Oct 2002 02:11:48 -0000 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org (80.91.224.244) by gnus.org with SMTP; 8 Oct 2002 02:11:48 -0000 Original-Received: from news by quimby.gnus.org with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 17ykdT-0007wg-00 for ; Tue, 08 Oct 2002 05:02:15 +0200 Original-To: ding@gnus.org Original-Path: not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnus.ding Original-Lines: 49 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: athene.jamux.com Original-X-Trace: quimby.gnus.org 1034046135 30545 65.222.215.34 (8 Oct 2002 03:02:15 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@quimby.gnus.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 8 Oct 2002 03:02:15 GMT X-Attribution: jam X-Request-PGP: http://www.tux.org/~jam/jam-gpg-keys.html X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5F05 15CF 05D2 E8D3 E7FA 8C6A 504B EFD5 BFE2 5F2F Cancel-Lock: sha1:oZeyEPtab44XiZP3q2cIz+CJ5Ng= Precedence: list X-Majordomo: 1.94.jlt7 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47048 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:47048 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 >>>>> "Simon" == Simon Josefsson >>>>> "Re: pgg doesn't seem to like me" >>>>> Sun, 06 Oct 2002 02:03:35 +0200 Simon> Uhm, are there any other outstanding PGG problems? [...] Simon> Or PGP/MIME and S/MIME problems in general? Another point perhaps. When verifying, gnus/pgg, or someone, will sometimes prompt with something like: Key ... not found; attempt to fetch it (y or n) When I say "y" it fails because my system is not set up to allow any random process to willy-nilly access any random outside entity. When I say "n" verification generally succeeds because my setup provides for gpg to fetch keys from a particular keyserver. I believe this is a reasonable set up and perhaps a preferred set up in most situations. I have not found where to disable gnus from attempting independently to determine whether to attempt to fetch keys. Presumably gnus key fetching can be gracefully disabled, but a larger question is why should gnus want to do this? And by default no less? Gpg has had workable key fetching for a long time. Key fetching was substantially improved in gnupg-1.0.7 and much improved again in gnupg-2.0.0. Gnupg is committed to coordinating key fetch with the improvements under way with many public key servers. IIRC more key fetching improvements are slated for gnupg-2.0.1. This is to suggest that users would be better served were gnus to let default key fetching be left to the user's gpg and optioned by ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf. HTH jam -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAj2iPtgACgkQUEvv1b/iXy/L2gCfQ8HV5U7S+PZLEkYS+TwWDosw ZXsAnA0Ti2LJ34kgI1k2++enEP2eiUHs =I9Ot -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----