From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/38441 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nuutti Kotivuori Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: '.' at the beginning of summary buffer lines Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:40:29 +0300 Message-ID: <87y9o16al5.fsf@smarttrust.com> References: <871ylyiv43.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87heuuhcon.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> <87bsky95kx.fsf@smarttrust.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: coloc-standby.netfonds.no Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035174303 22426 80.91.224.250 (21 Oct 2002 04:25:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 04:25:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ding@gnus.org Return-Path: Return-Path: Original-Received: (qmail 26478 invoked from network); 30 Aug 2001 11:41:07 -0000 Original-Received: from smtp.dave.sonera.fi (131.177.130.21) by gnus.org with SMTP; 30 Aug 2001 11:41:07 -0000 Original-Received: from kotivnu1-nb.etela.sonera.fi ([131.177.205.219]:32827 "EHLO oro") by inside.dave.sonera.fi with ESMTP id convert rfc822-to-8bit; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:40:30 +0300 Original-Received: from naked by oro with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15cQBR-0000wC-00; Thu, 30 Aug 2001 14:40:29 +0300 Original-To: Nuutti Kotivuori User-Agent: Gnus/5.090004 (Oort Gnus v0.04) XEmacs/21.4 (Artificial Intelligence) Original-Lines: 72 Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38441 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.general:38441 Simon Josefsson wrote: > Nuutti Kotivuori writes: > >>> Anyone know how to insert the U+2018 and U+2019 characters in >>> emacs? >> >> Assuming MULE-UCS - insert-ucs-character. #x2018 works in XEmacs, >> ?\x2018 in Emacs, I believe - the function takes a simple number >> from the minibuffer as input. However, the documentation is in >> MULE-UCS package, you can refer to it there. > > So ****this**** should look nice to everyone that manages UTF-8? It didn't :) I replaced a whole load of crap with stars so the message does not get split into 5 charset parts when sending ;) > It looks nice to me, with a vanilla Emacs 21 and vanilla RedHat > fonts. After sending? > Err, Gnus won't let me post this mail. QP encoding fails. It seems > to think the (emacs) character set for this buffer should be > `eight-bit-control' instead of `mule-unicode-0100-24ff'. Hmm. Maybe mm-mime-mule-charset-alist might be in error. I think that one uses unicode-a, unicode-b, ... for charsets, not mule-unicode-something. And another thing is in mm-find-mime-charset-region - it uses a rather dumb logic in picking utf-8 as the encoding. > Doesn't Gnus handle the Unicode stuff in Emacs 21? No idea - I have gotten it to work in XEmacs with MULE-UCS and a small hack to Gnus code. [...] > (I'm manually forcing this mail to be sent anyway, if you edit the > charset=eight-bit-control into charset=utf-8 maybe it works.) I got an error in QP decoding :) >> Character set ¡ ¢ >> -------------------------- >> Macintosh Roman 212 213 >> Macintosh Cyrillic 212 213 >> ISO 8859-7:1987 161 162 >> >> If you want to get the ISO 8859-7 character, you can say: >> >> (make-char 'greek-iso8859-7 161) >> (make-char 'greek-iso8859-7 162) > > Doesn't seem to work for me, the characters look like a upside down > ! and a cents character with a vertical line. Well, those two characters in the ISO 8859-7:1987 are defined to be: Hex | Dec | Chr | Code | ISO/IEC 10646-1:2000 Character Name ----+-----+-----+------+---------------------------- A1 | 161 | ¡ | 8216 | LEFT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK A2 | 162 | ¢ | 8217 | RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK How did you see the characters I put in the message? (after Character set, up there). I put them in the buffer with insert-ucs-character. If I am not entirely wrong, something bugs if you don't see them as quotation marks - or can't insert them as such. The sending charset for the message appears to be ISO-8859-7. -- Naked