From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 31237 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2022 01:44:10 -0000 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.32) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 1 Feb 2022 01:44:10 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEiDH-006OOU-48 for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:44:07 -0600 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEiDG-003l6C-C6 for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:44:06 -0600 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtp (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEiDE-003l5w-4y for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:44:04 -0600 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1nEiDC-00EG2l-6F for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Mon, 31 Jan 2022 19:44:03 -0600 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:Message-ID:Date:Subject: From:To:Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID: Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc :Resent-Message-ID:In-Reply-To:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=kbVY/hAZIO1rgVotARW5nBBvv6737e1ShUAAzm1wUeg=; b=MMWba40QA8W8yJc66hhFnEABaA KpXKmNK8OlZE4GcZSTMnvyduehHZTMC/yV6I8jkYjFZXIoeSE0xPqTOc6W5Y3dBAkwDIqYndZFhgD dtPYgiHP1e1zOTZbCTC2+oxeiGMmbjPUFFj425+PZLqN5mqbmx7oe9V1f53LWmwC5oF4=; Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nEiD3-0000iv-AI for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 02:43:56 +0100 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nEiD1-0006Wj-C1 for ding@gnus.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2022 02:43:51 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: ding@gnus.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: how to kill a virtual group Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2022 17:43:39 -0800 Message-ID: <87zgnbjr90.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87a6ffx5jg.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <874k5nokor.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87r18ro9py.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87czkbmrgf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ee4rflwa.fsf@zoho.eu> <87fsp7kwdp.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <871r0qtuen.fsf@zoho.eu> <877dailawi.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ee4oc0qy.fsf@zoho.eu> <87v8xziu7t.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87h79j8t3s.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:l0LciTAgQ+6sZwzZ1gdXnc54v/w= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Emanuel Berg writes: > Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >> In principle I agree, but in this case I think it's pretty >> useful to have the ability to define servers in a config >> file, that's maybe version controlled, but then also have >> the ability to create and destroy servers on the fly >> within Gnus. > > Yes, but why should it matter when they are _used_? Where and > how they are defined? It matters when they are edited or deleted, that's all. It doesn't make any sense to edit or delete servers defined in .gnus.el via the *Server* buffer, because those changes will not persist -- they'll be re-written next time you start Gnus. Uwe was trying to delete a nnvirtual server, and since that server was created in Gnus, it should be deletable in Gnus. It wasn't, hence the bug.