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[71.190.212.171]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a17sm1438223qto.27.2021.01.20.08.12.53 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Wed, 20 Jan 2021 08:12:54 -0800 (PST) From: dick.r.chiang@gmail.com To: Harry Putnam Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: howto have nnimap setup for smtp out References: <87czxzprau.fsf@local.lan> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2021 11:12:53 -0500 In-Reply-To: <87czxzprau.fsf@local.lan> (Harry Putnam's message of "Wed, 20 Jan 2021 10:21:45 -0500") Message-ID: <87zh1337ui.fsf@dick> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1.90 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk To reader@newsguy.com, In a previous post, you asserted Windows'ness. I refrained from chiming in then because I only know what works under GNU/Linux. But your questions this iteration really betray a deep-seated confusion. Outgoing is orthogonal to nnimap. I will not mention nnimap henceforth except to say nnimap-gmail without dovecot is unusable with any serious email volume. The casual user should not attempt outgoing with sendmail or postfix. Use a thing called "msmtp" to wrangle smtp.gmail.com. A reference setup can be found in https://github.com/dickmao/gnus-imap-walkthrough/blob/master/dot.msmtprc