From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1075 invoked from network); 26 Aug 2020 02:23:11 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 26 Aug 2020 02:23:11 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kAl5A-009nHU-Ph; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:22:36 -0500 Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kAl55-009nFS-V7 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:22:31 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLS1.3) tls TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.94) (envelope-from ) id 1kAl54-001955-4o for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 21:22:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:Date:Subject:To:From: Sender:Reply-To:Cc:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description: Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID: In-Reply-To:References:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe: List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=aF0asfsa59mVUHZQ80ch4KoeIg/rgA+dCU1L05DI+Uw=; b=nPTSdDTCzKYQSULlptJkZPTrGu UA1dVEJ6ss1YhDCiYHjTVh5pNsm3zieDXZBFndA54Y9012iDP1+naBZk9VaU/P0NPtoi8AoZ2O5F5 rF+JRRLAO4MxdEJayzdRHITIEHi6dHwTLjp2ZJF0+k0FbLM19U9dEJXH+bTrUrQr+C7A=; Received: from haven.eyrie.org ([166.84.7.159]) by quimby with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kAl4p-0006B8-Rj for ding@gnus.org; Wed, 26 Aug 2020 04:22:25 +0200 Received: from lothlorien.eyrie.org (unknown [IPv6:2603:3024:160b:400:ae22:bff:fe50:db06]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by haven.eyrie.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8798C118694 for ; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 19:22:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lothlorien.eyrie.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2AC03B43A5A; Tue, 25 Aug 2020 19:22:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Russ Allbery To: ding@gnus.org Subject: nnml suddenly not activating groups on startup Organization: The Eyrie User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2020 19:22:11 -0700 Message-ID: <87zh6itacs.fsf@hope.eyrie.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk I'm having a very strange issue and am not sure where to look in debugging it. I have Gnus configured with nntp as the primary select method and nnml as the secondary select method, and have a ton of nnml groups. Due to an unrelated problem, I've recently had to C-g during a "g" command to check for new mail and news a few times. Other than that, no versions or other configuration have changed. Suddenly today when I start Gnus most (but not all!) of my nnml groups do not activate and show in the group buffer with * for the article count. Pressing enter on a group to read it activates it and then everything is fine, including the marks. C-c M-g to activate all groups fixes the problem. But when I exit and restart Gnus, or use R, the problem recurs. Nothing has changed in my startup files and I can't find anything in newsrc.eld that would be relevant. Clearly Gnus is storing some state somewhere, but I have no idea where and can't find it. Where should I be looking? -- Russ Allbery (eagle@eyrie.org)