From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 Received: (qmail 29827 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2020 17:32:56 -0000 Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (129.7.128.208) by inbox.vuxu.org with UTF8ESMTPZ; 19 Apr 2020 17:32:56 -0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jQDnn-0005fZ-RR; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:32:19 -0500 Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jQDnj-0005cv-Hn for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:32:15 -0500 Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([95.216.78.240]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.3:TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92.3) (envelope-from ) id 1jQDnh-0007wu-V9 for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:32:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnus.org; s=20200322; h=Content-Type:MIME-Version:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:Date: References:Subject:Cc:To:From:Sender:Reply-To:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=FWqq+F9Yx4ka2O11dgNA8zRVepFoACNiXRBwGptHFnU=; b=MTYBOLyofP/nO/yQy6eIK2rhkc 1QB5gV5FpsV80BAWQMW2e5tKYnjViKVYuvBbNMydi+fIuJwUKDbBUewJKmAMWETjsSt5NPowryxlI +y5MUPWU9IQ4m8VVO+TdoSc+okvmI08F/7EvH0aB846z9WdTsWwBXXMLMvbaW2/3KWWs=; Received: from ericabrahamsen.net ([52.70.2.18] helo=mail.ericabrahamsen.net) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.3:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQDna-0003RZ-LI for ding@gnus.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 19:32:09 +0200 Received: from localhost (c-73-254-86-141.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [73.254.86.141]) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6915CFA02A; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 17:32:04 +0000 (UTC) From: Eric Abrahamsen To: Christian Barthel Cc: ding@gnus.org Subject: Re: new wifi connection = nntp timeout = Emacs restart? References: <87sgh3coxn.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87o8rogew7.fsf@barthel.ch> Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 10:32:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: <87o8rogew7.fsf@barthel.ch> (Christian Barthel's message of "Sun, 19 Apr 2020 08:37:12 +0200") Message-ID: <87zhb7mlf0.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain List-ID: Precedence: bulk Christian Barthel writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> Has anyone noticed that if you put your laptop to sleep while attached >> to one wifi network, then wake it up somewhere else and let it attach to >> a new network, nntp servers refuse to reconnect? In most cases, they >> refuse so hard that not only do I have to restart Gnus, I have to >> restart all of Emacs. I used to think it was my imagination, but it's >> happened too many times by now. >> >> Has anyone else seen this? What could be lingering in an Emacs session >> that would permanently prevent reconnection? > > Huh, restarting? I have seen similar behavior but I never had to > restart Emacs? Yeah, I used to assume I was hallucinating, but it's been going on for too long now. The rest of what you describe below is perfectly "normal" for Gnus, and the same as what we all experience, but this restarting thing... Next time I switch networks (not all that often, these days) I'll do some edebugging and try to open a more detailed bug report. > When switching the network or waking up from suspend, I usually > can't do `g' in Gnus. It seems to stuck and I usually type `C-g' > then to abort, quit Gnus and start again (but I am not restarting > Emacs itself). > > For me, it was not that much of a problem because most the time, > I am using the Gnus Agent and take my reader offline. Usually, I > connect regularly and do a `J s` and then a `J j`. After > switching the network or waking up, I do `J j` and `g` to fetch > new mail or news. > > I am using: > GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1, GTK+ Version 3.24.10)