From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/88139 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: gnorb can't find moved messages Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 10:47:59 -0700 Message-ID: <87zhw0ci0g.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87r2hf6ss4.fsf@sphax> <87d0syoo88.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1538243227 4726 195.159.176.226 (29 Sep 2018 17:47:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:47:07 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: ding@gnus.org, hobbes@poukram.net To: Bob Newell Original-X-From: ding-owner+M36353@lists.math.uh.edu Sat Sep 29 19:47:03 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.208]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6JKY-00016V-OA for ding-account@gmane.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:47:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1g6JLr-0003h9-49; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:48:23 -0500 Original-Received: from mx1.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.32]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1g6JLh-0003eE-Mu for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:48:13 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1g6JLg-0004wX-7e for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:48:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.ericabrahamsen.net ([50.56.99.223]) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1g6JLe-0002ZD-E4 for ding@gnus.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 19:48:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (97-113-251-203.tukw.qwest.net [97.113.251.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: eric@ericabrahamsen.net) by mail.ericabrahamsen.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2D134C17D8; Sat, 29 Sep 2018 17:48:08 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mail.ericabrahamsen.net; s=mail; t=1538243288; bh=MyO+u5R53OyjzmDNW1nurUZlC5PZlarQ9lQQVY6eMgM=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=CqYnUPLtCtNHh99urHEN3bO4Kb7Ncl9Orz+d0ehuL/hgXgDgMVF8XZAam75B6SNc6 3vFKP37z1ibKMp8iJj45Eb2jl/TT6K2KANGmhp7B7w4xM+Uum9z42uUHDGpT7Y0F5P gdWJlAFVX+jNKZHe/nuU0SCos6mr0igihadtdrfo= In-Reply-To: (Bob Newell's message of "Fri, 28 Sep 2018 13:36:02 -1000") X-Spam-Score: -4.9 (----) List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:88139 Archived-At: Bob Newell writes: > This problem also arose for me when I very first started to > use Gnorb, and also surprised me as I thought the registry > would act as a sort of invariant pointer. However, it didn't. Thanks to both of you -- it looks to me like the problem is in `gnorb-follow-gnus-link', not the registry. I've noticed that sometimes if you follow Gnus message links, you get into a Summary buffer that includes a bogus (None) message. Usually nothing happens with that, but in this case it looks like Gnorb tries to start a reply to that bogus message. In my brief testing, it only happens the first time you try it. After the first time Gnorb correctly finds the moved message, and starts a reply to it. I have no idea why, I assume some caching is going on. Anyway, I will try to fix `gnorb-follow-gnus-link' so it doesn't do that. > It came up because I use gmail as my primary service and use > gnus to access with IMAP (with no local storage). Gmail has a > funny sort of structure where everything appears in the "All > Mail" folder as well as possibly in one or more individual > folders (really tags, but it works like folders). > > Generally what I do is "archive" my "inbox" mail when I'm done > with it. All that does is remove the "inbox" tag, leaving the > "All Mail" tag in place. But if I had marked the mail for > tracking with Gnorb while in the inbox, which seems the normal > way to do things (act on the mail before archiving), the > org-mode link would be set to "inbox". After archiving, the > link would be broken. This isn't quite the same thing -- org-mode links hard-code the group name, so if you move the message Org won't be able to find it again. That doesn't have anything to do with Gnorb.