From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.general/87775 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Re: new (?) version of the old nnml problem Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 10:36:17 -0700 Message-ID: <87zi8l4t7y.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <86wp3p28u5.fsf@zoho.com> <86shed284o.fsf@zoho.com> <86o9p127p4.fsf@zoho.com> <8760b9kewf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <867evp2535.fsf@zoho.com> <871slxkdil.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <86y3o5zqvh.fsf@zoho.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1508521170 22501 195.159.176.226 (20 Oct 2017 17:39:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:39:30 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.90 (gnu/linux) To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: ding-owner+m35989@lists.math.uh.edu Fri Oct 20 19:39:27 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ding-account@gmane.org Original-Received: from mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com ([107.189.48.35]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5bGR-0004HW-GB for ding-account@gmane.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:39:19 +0200 X-Yomura-MXScrub: 1.0 Original-Received: from lists1.math.uh.edu (unknown [129.7.128.208]) by mxfilter-048035.atla03.us.yomura.com (Halon) with ESMTPS id 91a029fa-b5bd-11e7-b60e-b499baabecb2; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 17:39:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.math.uh.edu) by lists1.math.uh.edu with smtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e5bFo-0003Pu-I7; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:38:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mx2.math.uh.edu ([129.7.128.33]) by lists1.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e5bFm-0003PK-5n for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from quimby.gnus.org ([80.91.231.51]) by mx2.math.uh.edu with esmtps (TLSv1.2:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1e5bFk-0005MC-Uu for ding@lists.math.uh.edu; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 12:38:38 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (helo=blaine.gmane.org) by quimby.gnus.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1e5bFR-0001T6-PE for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:38:25 +0200 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e5bFA-0003MY-P7 for ding@gnus.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2017 19:38:00 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 39 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:DWO92MswZ5E0PTsC2HtMrQ3svX4= List-ID: Precedence: bulk Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.general:87775 Archived-At: Emanuel Berg writes: > Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > >>> No, you are right, "D" is what I wanted. >>> But then I can't send this! Even tho it >>> isn't mail? (error "Can't open server nnml:") >>> in gnus-inews-do-gcc >> >> It sends okay, the only error is that you >> have Gnus set up to archive your messages in >> the nnml server, so the archiving failed. > > You are right: > > (setq gnus-message-archive-group "nnml:mail.sent") > > Is that a bad idea? Not at all -- you've got to put them somewhere. And in fact an nnml server will always be available (barring some filesystem problems). It's only because you've explicitly shut it off that it's rejecting messages, and like I said that might not even solve your real problem, which is with the POP mail source, not the nnml store. > I suppose the optimal would be to have one > -sent group for each group, i.e. > gmane.emacs.gnus.general-sent But those sent messages still need to be stored locally, somehow -- you can't actually post your sent messages to gmane. IMAP is the only server where the archiving is also remote. nnml or nnmaildir are perfectly good choices for local storage. > Overkill for my purposes tho but I suppose it > would resolve this particular protocol > mismatch issue. No it wouldn't, see above.